Who will be the new Labour leader?
Poll: Who will be the new Labour leader?
Total Members Polled: 378
Discussion
MarshPhantom said:
Chuka, Caroline Flint or Hunt, not a bad shortlist.
Dreadful...with flint the least worst. Hunt is hopeless, umunna no substance. The Tories would love those two..Need someone to reconnect with ukip deserters and disaffected voters
Jarvis - been an MP for 2 years. Too soon probably
David miliband - could split the party. Bland, did he ever "do" anything in government? Notwithstanding that, is tainted by Blair.
Burnham - impeccable credentials just by benefit of his birthplace. (I might be biased
). A normal person. Northern (not north london) In credit over Hillsborough campaign. Used to the political roughhouse so won't be daunted. You'll get the shroud waving "1200 dead" right wing but that's all nonsense. Oh - and supports land value tax
edh said:
MarshPhantom said:
Chuka, Caroline Flint or Hunt, not a bad shortlist.
Dreadful...with flint the least worst. Hunt is hopeless, umunna no substance. The Tories would love those two..Need someone to reconnect with ukip deserters and disaffected voters
Jarvis - been an MP for 2 years. Too soon probably
David miliband - could split the party. Bland, did he ever "do" anything in government? Notwithstanding that, is tainted by Blair.
Burnham - impeccable credentials just by benefit of his birthplace. (I might be biased
). A normal person. Northern (not north london) In credit over Hillsborough campaign. Used to the political roughhouse so won't be daunted. You'll get the shroud waving "1200 dead" right wing but that's all nonsense. Oh - and supports land value tax
The Vambo said:
Welshbeef said:
The Vambo said:
Welshbeef said:
Thing is to win ever again in Scotland they need to be much more left wing
Lot of nonsense. Labour have to be credible party with a clear precise message long before how many degrees left of centre matters to Scottish voters.
They didn't have much of a problem going straight from the (comparatively) right leaning John smith to the very right leaning Blair. They couldn't vote them in quick enough.
Ideology had bugger all to do with Labours catastrophe last night.
You seen desperate to ignore how much of an effect the perceived lack of capability and trustworthiness has on voters.
Labour could have gone with a communist manifesto and would still have had a disaster because the are a party of buffoons and everyone knows it.
flyingvisit said:
If they choose Chuka, they'll be handing UKIP a few million white working-class votes.
What's wrong with (ahem) coloured working class folk and their votes? UKIP has support from all ethnic backgrounds, not just white honkeys like me.I do think it'll be Chuka though, the Labour party will see it as their Barrack Obama moment when all it actually is, is another Labour luvvie with no substance and no clue, the. 2020 will be another Conservative majority with them picking up the most seats and UKIP diddling the Labour Northern vote again - what's left of it, anyway.
edh said:
Jarvis - been an MP for 2 years. Too soon probably
That's an advantage. Not tainted by the bad years, and one of the few who could connect with red UKIP and be credible enough to give the Conservatives something to think about. He had a few big beasts promoting him yesterday which points to the thinking in the serious parts of Labour.The problem for Jarvis is that the party is so awash with metropolitan career politicians that his appeal is going to be diluted.
t or a potato, nevermind Chuka. MarshPhantom said:
I just think they need to move away from the past, Burnham and D. Miliband just seem like yesterdays men TBH.
That I can appreciate, but exactly who is there?The names mentioned so far are either unknown and/or flyweight, have a glass chin in front of the camera, or remain tainted; it seems as though each option is one or the other - who exactly is there? Folk can say that 5 years is time enough to rebuild but this is after a defeat that wasn't crushing in terms of the parliamentary majority, but crushing in terms of morale. That amount of time basking in the impotence and anonymity of opposition presents real challenges.
BoRED S2upid said:
I'd love to vote but I'd need to know who they are. Who's this army guy I read about once? I will vote for him.
As for that Tristram hunt guy surely he's only in labour because he was bullied by conservatives at Oxford.
I'm convinced that, as a bit of a Tim nice but, he signed in at the wrong desk once about 10 years ago and has been too embarrassed to say anything since. As for that Tristram hunt guy surely he's only in labour because he was bullied by conservatives at Oxford.
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