Who will be the new Labour leader?
Poll: Who will be the new Labour leader?
Total Members Polled: 378
Discussion
RYH64E said:
When they find out it will be interesting to see if they change their policies to appeal to more people, or try to persuade more people that their existing policies are the right ones. Blair sold out traditional socialist principles in return for power, Miliband stayed true to his (misguided) principles and lost, comprehensively.
He allowed a Blair type restyle in getting his voice sorted, getting married and of course the sharp suits that must have had a bad effect as he was seen to be ditching himself.The geek that talked funny and wore jumpers was in my opinion more electable, but he chose to emulate Cameron and we already had one of them.
The Vambo said:
What are you on about?
You seen desperate to ignore how much of an effect the perceived lack of capability and trustworthiness has on voters.
Labour could have gone with a communist manifesto and would still have had a disaster because the are a party of buffoons and everyone knows it.
Labour got kicked into touch by the electorate in Scotland, simply because they jumped into bed with the Tories over the referendum debacle......and the electorate told them to do one. The Lib-Dems suffered a similar fate in Scotland. If they had run their own campaigns in support of the union, separate from the Tories, both parties may be in a different position now.You seen desperate to ignore how much of an effect the perceived lack of capability and trustworthiness has on voters.
Labour could have gone with a communist manifesto and would still have had a disaster because the are a party of buffoons and everyone knows it.
xjsdriver said:
The Vambo said:
What are you on about?
You seen desperate to ignore how much of an effect the perceived lack of capability and trustworthiness has on voters.
Labour could have gone with a communist manifesto and would still have had a disaster because the are a party of buffoons and everyone knows it.
Labour got kicked into touch by the electorate in Scotland, simply because they jumped into bed with the Tories over the referendum debacle......and the electorate told them to do one. The Lib-Dems suffered a similar fate in Scotland. If they had run their own campaigns in support of the union, separate from the Tories, both parties may be in a different position now.You seen desperate to ignore how much of an effect the perceived lack of capability and trustworthiness has on voters.
Labour could have gone with a communist manifesto and would still have had a disaster because the are a party of buffoons and everyone knows it.
xjsdriver said:
Labour got kicked into touch by the electorate in Scotland, simply because they jumped into bed with the Tories over the referendum debacle......and the electorate told them to do one. The Lib-Dems suffered a similar fate in Scotland. If they had run their own campaigns in support of the union, separate from the Tories, both parties may be in a different position now.
That's not really true. The Labour party in Scotland has been in meltdown for many years, particularly since the succesive SNP governments. They didn't do themselves any favours by jumping into bed with the Tories, but their problems run much deeper, hence the resignation of their leader right after the referendum and the decapitation of Murphy immediately after the election.Labour were happy to turn the Tories into pantomime villains in Scotland painting them as being out of touch with Scotland's needs - a party of England. They treated much of the country as a "rotten borough" - putting little work into their party or their constituents.
After three terms in power and no particular change (for better or for worse) in Scotland, it was easy for the SNP to use the same language - language Labour supporters had been taught to treat as gospel - but substituting Labour for Tories.
The referendum made it easier but it was a gift to the SNP that dates back decades. The SNP just had to wait until the Labour party was unpopular in order to use it to full effect.
After three terms in power and no particular change (for better or for worse) in Scotland, it was easy for the SNP to use the same language - language Labour supporters had been taught to treat as gospel - but substituting Labour for Tories.
The referendum made it easier but it was a gift to the SNP that dates back decades. The SNP just had to wait until the Labour party was unpopular in order to use it to full effect.
Burnham speaking to sky - still has his head in the sand by the looks of it.
skynews said:
What single thing did Ed Miliband do wrong?
"What we all did wrong was fail to explain and also defend our economic record. We didn't overspend through all our time in government."
http://news.sky.com/story/1498642/burnham-im-my-own-man-with-my-own-views"What we all did wrong was fail to explain and also defend our economic record. We didn't overspend through all our time in government."
BlackLabel said:
Burnham speaking to sky - still has his head in the sand by the looks of it.
The new party spin is they didn't collect enough of the taxes that they were supposed to and had banked on.skynews said:
What single thing did Ed Miliband do wrong?
"What we all did wrong was fail to explain and also defend our economic record. We didn't overspend through all our time in government."
http://news.sky.com/story/1498642/burnham-im-my-own-man-with-my-own-views"What we all did wrong was fail to explain and also defend our economic record. We didn't overspend through all our time in government."
Burnham claiming to be a normal bloke and not knowing the price of a litre of fuel.
Corbyn STILL denying it was the party's fault. He thinks that they had the right policies but basically the electorate was too thick to understand them and went with their inner racist to vote UKIP.
Keep going Labour. With this level of candidate it will be decades before you get back into power.
Corbyn STILL denying it was the party's fault. He thinks that they had the right policies but basically the electorate was too thick to understand them and went with their inner racist to vote UKIP.
Keep going Labour. With this level of candidate it will be decades before you get back into power.
Did anyone hear the bit on radio 4 about some leader hustings this evening. The audience was thE faithful (was it a union conference) when all the candidates were asked a simple question: welfare cap? Yes or no?
The two women I've never previously heard of said yes, Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper waffled and dodged the question despite repeated heckling and jeers. Jeremy Corbyn said a firm no, and got cheers and applause.
The two women I've never previously heard of said yes, Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper waffled and dodged the question despite repeated heckling and jeers. Jeremy Corbyn said a firm no, and got cheers and applause.
What an absolute moron.
They need to save themselves the continued embarrassment, bring someone in who doesn't read from the "working families" script, accept responsibility for their many many f
kups and has a plan in place to offer something better come election time. A video of them taking a sledge hammer to ed's stone would do wonders too (and to his second kitchen just for the giggles).
Until they pull their heads out of their arses they will be a laughing stock for the next couple of elections.
They need to save themselves the continued embarrassment, bring someone in who doesn't read from the "working families" script, accept responsibility for their many many f
kups and has a plan in place to offer something better come election time. A video of them taking a sledge hammer to ed's stone would do wonders too (and to his second kitchen just for the giggles). Until they pull their heads out of their arses they will be a laughing stock for the next couple of elections.
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