Who will be the new Labour leader?

[Snozzwangler]

fking YES!

I've just shot my muck.

[madbadger]

Union backing worked out well last time.

[jmorgan]

Unite and unison, any othe unions beginning with u?

[eharding]

jmorgan said:

Unite and unison, any othe unions beginning with u?

Undeb Cenedlaethol Athrawon Cymru
Undeb y pleidleiswyr Ceidwadol dros Corbyn
Union of Construction, Allied Trades and Technicians
Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers
Unity
University and College Union

[Cobnapint]

If JC wins, that'll be the end of Burnham and the other two. A life of back bench sniping and fake allegiance for them..!

[Mermaid]

Cobnapint said:

If JC wins, that'll be the end of Burnham and the other two. A life of back bench sniping and fake allegiance for them..!

A result then. They could always cross the floor esp Kendall.

[allergictocheese]

Chuka Umunna and Dan Jarvis will be hot favourites to be in charge by the next election. Both have smartly sat back, acknowledging that the party needs to get this left/middle debate out of the way.

I expect a split and the mainstream party that emerges from this debacle is likely to have ended its wholesome reliance on the unions, who continue to have a disproportionate effect on British politics.

I am no fan of Labour, but I am less of a fan of politics without a strong opposition holding the government to account. Labour are currently too weak to be effective at all and no party, Conservatives included, should be trusted to behave responsibly without being scrutinised.

[Blib]

Didn't Chuka Umunna pull out of this election at an early stage, due to 'personal issues' concerning the media's interest in his family?

[allergictocheese]

Blib said:

Didn't Chuka Umunna pull out of this election at an early stage, due to 'personal issues' concerning the media's interest in his family?

What did you expect him to say? "I've pulled out because I think the party is about to implode and the last thing I want to be is another William Hague"?

If there were skeletons the press would have brought them out. His excuse of "don't want my family in the spotlight" is nothing more than a platitude.

Anyone taking the leader's job now is receiving a hospital pass and will soon fall back into obscurity. Might as well be Corbyn, as he's come from nowhere so won't have far to fall back down.

[Blib]

allergictocheese said:

Blib said:

Didn't Chuka Umunna pull out of this election at an early stage, due to 'personal issues' concerning the media's interest in his family?

What did you expect him to say? "I've pulled out because I think the party is about to implode and the last thing I want to be is another William Hague"?

If there were skeletons the press would have brought them out. His excuse of "don't want my family in the spotlight" is nothing more than a platitude.

Anyone taking the leader's job now is receiving a hospital pass and will soon fall back into obscurity. Might as well be Corbyn, as he's come from nowhere so won't have far to fall back down.

That may well be the case. However, it begs the question, why did he throw his hat into the ring in the first place? It was pretty obvious that the party would need a lot of work for it to become electable once more.

I wonder why he only realised that after he'd publicly declared his intention to run?

[jmorgan]

He would have been under the scope one way or the other. I wonder if w Len said "no chance sunshine".

[Saddle bum]

Labour could split, with one lot joining the Lib Dums, the extreme lefties would then have the rump of Labour to themselves.

[4v6]

Whats the name of the former leader now? Began with ? ended with a miliband? Oh yeah Ed.
Anyways, he recently stated that he'd support any new leader no matter whom they might be, question is, how can he?
Says much about the fact that he would so readily abandon his principles to run with whomever is todays king of the lefty pile.

[Mermaid]

Communication Workers Inion (200k members) backs Corbyn and takes swipe at Mandelson & blairites.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/30/co...

[johnxjsc1985]

I think the "real" Labour party members have been kept locked in the attic since 1997 so I think its their chance to seek revenge on the Blairites or the Brownites. The real issue should be the lack of talented MP's from all parties suitable to lead this country in the future.
If these four are the very best that Labour can produce then gawd help us.

[turbobloke]

johnxjsc1985 said:

I think the "real" Labour party members have been kept locked in the attic since 1997 so I think its their chance to seek revenge on the Blairites or the Brownites. The real issue should be the lack of talented MP's from all parties suitable to lead this country in the future.
If these four are the very best that Labour can produce then gawd help us.

True enough, though Gawd Help Labour more than us - the country at large may well not see any use for Labour over the next 10 to 20 years.

[Mark Benson]

Blib said:

allergictocheese said:

Blib said:

Didn't Chuka Umunna pull out of this election at an early stage, due to 'personal issues' concerning the media's interest in his family?

What did you expect him to say? "I've pulled out because I think the party is about to implode and the last thing I want to be is another William Hague"?

If there were skeletons the press would have brought them out. His excuse of "don't want my family in the spotlight" is nothing more than a platitude.

Anyone taking the leader's job now is receiving a hospital pass and will soon fall back into obscurity. Might as well be Corbyn, as he's come from nowhere so won't have far to fall back down.

That may well be the case. However, it begs the question, why did he throw his hat into the ring in the first place? It was pretty obvious that the party would need a lot of work for it to become electable once more.

I wonder why he only realised that after he'd publicly declared his intention to run?

I suspect when he saw that whoever puts themselves forward for this leadership wasn't going to unite the party - Labour needs to have this schism and sort out once and for all what it wants to be, once they've done that we'll see the likes of Ummuna back in the ring.

[Vaud]

Mark Benson said:

I suspect when he saw that whoever puts themselves forward for this leadership wasn't going to unite the party - Labour needs to have this schism and sort out once and for all what it wants to be, once they've done that we'll see the likes of Ummuna back in the ring.

I agree, but will there be a party left, or will it split and the centrists join the LDs to form a "Democratic" party or similar?

[Johnnytheboy]

This is brilliant.

All he needs now is Scargill's backing and he's a shoo-in.

[Smollet]

Saddle bum said:

Labour could split, with one lot joining the Lib Dums, the extreme lefties would then have the rump of Labour to themselves.

That might tempt some of the very left Tories to join them . Oh what fun