Scrapping the Human Rights Act

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JagLover

42,416 posts

235 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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BlackLabel said:
It's that time of year again when a politician repeats a manifesto pledge knowing full well it won't happen - a bit like the tens of thousands immigration pledge.

With a wafer-thin majority in the commons and a disproportionate number of lib dem and labour peers in the Lords this isn't a fight that the government will win.

telegraph said:
The Human Rights Act will be scrapped in favour of a British Bill of Rights by the new Government, the Justice Secretary has pledged.

A new British Bill of Rights will be introduced, Liz Truss has insisted, dismissing speculation that the Government is planning to scrap the manifesto pledge.

In recent weeks it was suggested that the Bill had been "junked" by Theresa May's new top team.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/22/new-british-bill-of-rights-will-not-be-scrapped-insists-liz-trus/
We have accepted an unelected upper house for so long because of certain conventions that have been followed to make clear its subordinate status to the elected house.

One of those conventions is the Salisbury convention that the HOL will not block manifesto commitments by the elected government of the day. If that is not followed then the government will be entitled to use the Parliament Act.

People are fed up with rule by an unaccountable elite and this is a battle well worth fighting.

Derek Smith

45,661 posts

248 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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JagLover said:
People are fed up with rule by an unaccountable elite and this is a battle well worth fighting.
What people?

The press will big it up but the benefit of a second chamber is that it is able to block legislation that it believes is poorly worded, open to misinterpretation or morally indefensible.

I'd find the second chamber useless if it didn't act at times outside of its nod-through habitual stance.