Heathrow Expansion
Discussion
LHRFlightman said:
Please don't get me started on the noise. Whilst i fully appreciate it can be tiring for some, the vast majority of complainers have ulterior motives ie house prices.
The thing is, if you've grown up in the area, you get used to it, and eventually don't even notice it.The moaners are usually the ones that have moved into the area and bought because it price is lower because of the flightpaths, and then moan and b
h about something they damn well knew existed...and they get all this air time from stupid journo's with hidden agendas.There's that well known moaning old fart that lives near Gatwick, bought their ideal retirement cottage, under the ruddy flight path of Gatwick (because it was cheap for a reason) and now spends his every waking hour moaning about the noise...
anonymous said:
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Common across lots of industry to substitute a X ending to short a word without it meaning something else.Passengers could get shortened to Pass, but that could mean pass as in pass the ball, so instead of pass it becomes Pax.
Transmission, as in radio transmissions, is Tx and Rx in a similar way.
hidetheelephants said:
It really doesn't matter much; if you're north of Brum it's probably quicker to fly to LHR from Leeds/Bradford, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Inverness or wherever and change planes. LHR is trying to compete with and win those pax who want to transfer to onward flights from Frankfurt, Charles de Gaulle, Schiphol etc. There are no other airports in the UK in the running to do that and to build one from scratch it would need to be built quite near to London, probably to the northwest, near to motorways and linked to the rail network. Good luck finding real estate to build that on and even more good luck finding the £100bn+ to do it with.
You don't need to build a new airport to be able to offer those connections - people don't care where they make a connection, as long as the connection is there. It could therefore be anywhere in the UK and there are existing UK airports which can take the capacity, and are within a similar geographical distance to Charles de Gaulle and Schipol, from Heathrow. By virtue of already serving the greatest number of and most diverse routes, with Gatwick and Manchester having limited long haul routes by comparison, it is Heathrow that therefore needs the increased capacity to compete with Schipol and CdG. From that perspective it's always going to make the most sense that Heathrow gets the increased capacity.
That's my understanding anyway.
Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Thursday 27th October 14:42
aeropilot said:
LHRFlightman said:
Please don't get me started on the noise. Whilst i fully appreciate it can be tiring for some, the vast majority of complainers have ulterior motives ie house prices.
The thing is, if you've grown up in the area, you get used to it, and eventually don't even notice it.The moaners are usually the ones that have moved into the area and bought because it price is lower because of the flightpaths, and then moan and b
h about something they damn well knew existed...and they get all this air time from stupid journo's with hidden agendas.There's that well known moaning old fart that lives near Gatwick, bought their ideal retirement cottage, under the ruddy flight path of Gatwick (because it was cheap for a reason) and now spends his every waking hour moaning about the noise...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvm1-QxXYAQ-v6I.jpg
Collectingbrass said:
aeropilot said:
LHRFlightman said:
Please don't get me started on the noise. Whilst i fully appreciate it can be tiring for some, the vast majority of complainers have ulterior motives ie house prices.
The thing is, if you've grown up in the area, you get used to it, and eventually don't even notice it.The moaners are usually the ones that have moved into the area and bought because it price is lower because of the flightpaths, and then moan and b
h about something they damn well knew existed...and they get all this air time from stupid journo's with hidden agendas.There's that well known moaning old fart that lives near Gatwick, bought their ideal retirement cottage, under the ruddy flight path of Gatwick (because it was cheap for a reason) and now spends his every waking hour moaning about the noise...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvm1-QxXYAQ-v6I.jpg
This year at SFO, they've had 320,000 complaints by more than 2,100 residents.
Interesting Forbes article on the Heathrow expansion and how it compares with airports expansions in America.
jammy-git said:
Interesting Forbes article on the Heathrow expansion and how it compares with airports expansions in America.
Interesting that a new runway at Heathrow is 18 times more expensive than an American one.greygoose said:
jammy-git said:
Interesting Forbes article on the Heathrow expansion and how it compares with airports expansions in America.
Interesting that a new runway at Heathrow is 18 times more expensive than an American one.Lucas CAV said:
greygoose said:
jammy-git said:
Interesting Forbes article on the Heathrow expansion and how it compares with airports expansions in America.
Interesting that a new runway at Heathrow is 18 times more expensive than an American one.Collectingbrass said:
At least 50% of complaints to airports in the USA originate from one or two households:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvm1-QxXYAQ-v6I.jpg
A similar thing happened with Heathrow a couple of years back, they only found out as the idiots forgot to change it when the clocks changed so the complaints and times didn't tally https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvm1-QxXYAQ-v6I.jpg
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/heathrow-...
No sane person makes that many complaints about noise of aircraft, when they pretty much follow the same times and paths on a daily basis.....
If you don't like something that much then why the fk do you live there - go somewhere else.
Do Network Rail get the same level of daily complaints about the daily 6.15 to Waterloo going past someone's house after they moved there knowing there was a railway line at the bottom of the garden...??
These are all professional complainers, probably even paid to do by various anti-airport groups.... yet numbnuts MP's etc., take it seriously and given them publicity - does my head in
If you don't like something that much then why the f
k do you live there - go somewhere else.Do Network Rail get the same level of daily complaints about the daily 6.15 to Waterloo going past someone's house after they moved there knowing there was a railway line at the bottom of the garden...??
These are all professional complainers, probably even paid to do by various anti-airport groups.... yet numbnuts MP's etc., take it seriously and given them publicity - does my head in
aeropilot said:
No sane person makes that many complaints about noise of aircraft, when they pretty much follow the same times and paths on a daily basis.....
If you don't like something that much then why the fk do you live there - go somewhere else.
Do Network Rail get the same level of daily complaints about the daily 6.15 to Waterloo going past someone's house after they moved there knowing there was a railway line at the bottom of the garden...??
These are all professional complainers, probably even paid to do by various anti-airport groups.... yet numbnuts MP's etc., take it seriously and given them publicity - does my head in
I used to go out with a girl who lived just behind the hotels on the Bath Road, apart from Concorde taking off which was very loud the rest you just got used to. If you don't like something that much then why the f
k do you live there - go somewhere else.Do Network Rail get the same level of daily complaints about the daily 6.15 to Waterloo going past someone's house after they moved there knowing there was a railway line at the bottom of the garden...??
These are all professional complainers, probably even paid to do by various anti-airport groups.... yet numbnuts MP's etc., take it seriously and given them publicity - does my head in
Einion Yrth said:
greygoose said:
I used to go out with a girl who lived just behind the hotels on the Bath Road,
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