Mhairi Black's already broken protocol on the first day

[Andy Zarse]

Scoredraw said:

Andy Zarse said:

It's not funny. They get to vote on their own hunting rules, and then on ours which don't affect them.

If you think hunting with dogs is in any way acceptable, then you need to have a bloody good word with yourself. If you want to control foxes then I'd suggest a decent .22 rifle, such a rifle is a quick, efficient method of despatching a fox. Using Tory ideology, it's the most cost effective way of carrying out the job too.

Right. For the third time, for the benefit of the terminally dense:-

MY POINT HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING

[Mandalore]

I have the perfect solution for everyone

[r11co]

Scoredraw said:

Let me ask you if you think fox hunting with dogs is acceptable....or do you think it's abhorrent?

The SNP clearly have no quarrel with unrestricted use of dogs in fox hunts as the law in Scotland currently permits it, and the amendment they threatened to vote against would have brought English law in line with Scotland.

As I said in another thread - the SNP now wear their duplicitousness on their sleeve, no principles, no policies, just protest.

[simoid]

r11co said:

The SNP clearly have no quarrel with unrestricted use of dogs in fox hunts as the law in Scotland currently permits it, and the amendment they threatened to vote against would have brought English law in line with Scotland.

As I said in another thread - the SNP now wear their duplicitousness on their sleeve, no principles, no policies, just protest.

Trolls, the lot of them.

An organised group of trolls.

What's the collective noun for a large number of trolls? A Scottish National Party.

[IainT]

r11co said:

The SNP clearly have no quarrel with unrestricted use of dogs in fox hunts as the law in Scotland currently permits it, and the amendment they threatened to vote against would have brought English law in line with Scotland.

Much as I dislike the SNP I thought they'd committed to bring Scottish law inline with the tighter UK law? I agree that they're a bunch of opportunistic two-faced liars though - they'd clearly stated they would not engage in votes on non-Scotland laws. THis would have been a prime example of that.

[CaptainSlow]

A strong SNP equals a Tory government, quite ironic. If the economy continues to recover over this parliament and with the lack of a credible Labour leader I can see another Conservative win next time around.

[Cheese Mechanic]

Scoredraw said:

If you think hunting with dogs is in any way acceptable, then you need to have a bloody good word with yourself. If you want to control foxes then I'd suggest a decent .22 rifle, such a rifle is a quick, efficient method of despatching a fox. Using Tory ideology, it's the most cost effective way of carrying out the job too.

Really? The only fox I ever shot had a rotten hindquarter as a result of small calibre gunshot, no idea how long it had been like that, but I smelled it before I saw it, it was in a terrible state. I had plenty of opportunity to take out foxes, but not for me, too much like the dogs I have had over the years.

As for actually obtaining a firearms certificate in these days is not an easy exercise, jump, hoops, etc.

As for hunting the fox with dogs, it controlled the fox population , it usually takes out the older animal, its usually very quick, if not easy on the eye. It actually did what it intended too very well.

[r11co]

IainT said:

Much as I dislike the SNP I thought they'd committed to bring Scottish law inline with the tighter UK law?

A convenient sop to their thick followers. There was no mention of this in their manifesto for the General Election, and they've had 8 years in government in Scotland to do it but haven't (didn't see them mentioning it in their proposals at the opening of the last term either).

This only became an issue for them when it became a prop to poke the UK government with, and Sturgeon's assertion that immense pressure from English voters made her realise the SNP should get involved it utter utter bullst and should rank alongside Salmond's lie that he sought legal advice on automatic entry to the EU for an independent Scotland.

Nick Clegg destroyed trust in the LibDems when he went back on one election pledge. SNP are making a career of it.

[Scoredraw]

technodup said:

dandarez said:

I'm not an expert on Paisley. Far from it. But before he left at 10, he should have looked across the fields and he'd have spotted this.
WTF is that?

It's a huge car factory that was there for many years.

Which is/was in Linwood, which is not in her constituency.

I moved out of Paisley or I'd have the mutant representing me. Mind you I now have some other SNP dreck instead so not sure it makes any difference.

I'll give her her due (a first and last), there's not many 20 year olds who could stand in the HoP and give anything resembling a coherent speech. Even if it was virtually empty bar her own lot.

BL was the death knell for the British car industry. It tied to compete with itself over brand supremacy Jag vs Landrover vs Triumph vs Hillman vs Rover etc etc - madness on stilts. As for one of it's cars - the Hillman Imp, it was a great wee car, which could be made to go like stink and had rear wheel drive, so I preferred driving it over an Austin Mini.

Technodup, if you'd like to be represented by a Tory at Westminster, then I'd suggest moving to Tweedsdale, or Edinburgh South.

[technodup]

Scoredraw said:

technodup said:

he issue isn't whether it's right or not, it's that Sturgeon specifically ruled out voting on it because it is an English only issue. Then they voted on it.

56 MPs. 112 rancid faces.

Let me ask you if you think fox hunting with dogs is acceptable....or do you think it's abhorrent?

I'm assuming you are deliberately missing the point.

Sturgeon: "We'll not vote on English only issues for example foxhunting"
SNP MPs: Vote on foxhunting.

I couldn't give a toss about foxhunting. I care much more about lying SNP politicians hell bent on fking Scotland up in the name of independence. .

[ruff'n'smov]

FourWheelDrift said:

Don't know why the SNP think they will have any power in Parliament or that anyone will listen to them, they only have 56 seats, even the Liberals in past years have had more than that and nobody listened to them (when not meddling in a coalition).

[IroningMan]

Scoredraw said:

BL was the death knell for the British car industry. It tied to compete with itself over brand supremacy Jag vs Landrover vs Triumph vs Hillman vs Rover etc etc - madness on stilts. As for one of it's cars - the Hillman Imp, it was a great wee car, which could be made to go like stink and had rear wheel drive, so I preferred driving it over an Austin Mini.

Technodup, if you'd like to be represented by a Tory at Westminster, then I'd suggest moving to Tweedsdale, or Edinburgh South.

Hillman was never part of BL; the Rootes Group was acquired by Chrysler and ultimately PSA.

[r11co]

IroningMan said:

Hillman was never part of BL; the Rootes Group was acquired by Chrysler and ultimately PSA.

Scoredraw's been red carded.

[r11co]

technodup said:

I couldn't give a toss about foxhunting. I care much more about lying SNP politicians hell bent on fking Scotland up in the name of independence.

I can't take the credit for this description of the SNP. When I read it I thought it sums them up perfectly....

"The SNP is not a governing party. The mess they have made of already devolved areas - police, education, health - is testimony to that. The SNP is an agitprop organisation, permanently in campaigning mode. When its supporters get round to realising which areas are actually devolved - some of them are ignorant about that - they will see what a hash a campaigning party is making of governing. Implementing realistic policy is what government is for. Not glad handing and posing for selfies."

[heebeegeetee]

Scoredraw said:

BL was the death knell for the British car industry. It tied to compete with itself over brand supremacy Jag vs Landrover vs Triumph vs Hillman vs Rover etc etc - madness on stilts.

Yet it causes VAG no problems whatsoever, as they flood the market with everything from Porsche to Polos, VW competing with Audi on one level, Porsche on another level, Seat v Skoda, etc.

[Andy Zarse]

heebeegeetee said:

Scoredraw said:

BL was the death knell for the British car industry. It tied to compete with itself over brand supremacy Jag vs Landrover vs Triumph vs Hillman vs Rover etc etc - madness on stilts.

Yet it causes VAG no problems whatsoever, as they flood the market with everything from Porsche to Polos, VW competing with Audi on one level, Porsche on another level, Seat v Skoda, etc.

...having first destroyed/bought up the competition.

Personally I find the majority of VAG vehicles lazily designed dreary default options for people who have no interest or idea about cars. Not even that reliable anymore.

[williamp]

There are nany to blame for the demise of bl/rootes, but VAG had nothing to do with it (apart from being competition)