Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[technodup]

Big Rod said:

voyds9 said:

I can see some YeSNP supporters voting for BREXIT to try to trigger another Scottish referendum

I could see that happening.

That's the chat on their Facebook pages.

[emicen]

Parsnip said:

Big Rod said:

Troubleatmill said:

For a section of the country with such a small proportion of the population, they are getting far more than their fair share of attention.

I fking hate being Scottish these days!

I used to love it but now I wish I'd been born somewhere else. I'm embarrassed by the Saltire and that rampant cat thing. I actually cringe at certain shades of blue.

I'm actually hoping the SNPricks call another referendum, (I'm even sick of that word!), so I've a case to get the fk out of here because I really don't want to be subject to any more 'hard done by', 'chip on shoulder', paranoid 'patriots' telling me everything's everyone else's fault.

It's fking sickening!

Same, I see a Scotland flag now and I immediatley jump to thinking of the YESNP.

Watching Scotland lose to England at the weekend didn't bug me half as much as it used to, afterwards part of me was glad we lost, just so we didn't need to hear any bleating from the mong element spouting the "auld enemy" claptrap.

It is a sad state of affairs, but I am in a similar boat to you now - often embarrassed to be Scottish and not proud of it - it will take many years to undo the damage caused by the SNP and the Yes campaign.

I find it more annoying listening to their ranting about people who voted no singing Flower of Scotland, usually featuring terms like traitors.

[Wombat3]

technodup said:

Big Rod said:

voyds9 said:

I can see some YeSNP supporters voting for BREXIT to try to trigger another Scottish referendum

I could see that happening.

That's the chat on their Facebook pages.

Denser than lead, the lot of them.

[simoid]

Anyone in a good mood? A scout through this page will sort you out

https://www.facebook.com/How-Can-I-Be-Guilty-Of-Tr...

These are the people who vote yes and will never consider the consequences. Still nonsense about how rich we would be if we were independent.

[Big Rod]

andymadmak said:

You guys genuinely have my sympathy. It must be heart wreching to have your national identity, your heritage hijacked by a narrow minded bunch of bigots. No doubt Edinburger will be back with a roll eyes smiley and a line along the direction of " surely we have proved by now that the SNP/nationalsim is not about hating rUK/the English, " but any casual observer can see that whilst hatred and bigotry mighr not be at the heart of every Nat, it sure as hell is in the hearts of far too many of them, and the SNP does NOTHING to stamp it out. That tells you everything you need to know about the morality of the SNP leadership.

But, hey, whilst many from the rUK are already severing business and social ties with Scotland ( there is only so much abuse we can take, even from "family") I would like to say that you guys, and indeed any other Scottish person who so desires, is more than welcome to come and live in rUK, any time. RUK is proud of the Scottish part of its heritage, just as kuch as it is of the Welsh, the Norns and the various bits that make up the English! Your country may be lost to you, but your wider family isn't for those of you who wish to stay a part of it.
Come down, we'll buy you a wee dram..

Very kind of you Andy, thanks.

My Wife's originally from Bucks so we already have family down there. House prices are eye watering though!

To be honest, if we're going to move I fancy something a bit more exotic like Australia or America but I can't see me selling that to my family.

We'll just have to see how it goes.

[Ridgemont]

simoid said:

Anyone in a good mood? A scout through this page will sort you out

https://www.facebook.com/How-Can-I-Be-Guilty-Of-Tr...

These are the people who vote yes and will never consider the consequences. Still nonsense about how rich we would be if we were independent.

Buwhahaha - posted from page. Surely this is a spoof? No one would be so self unaware?




edit ....I can only assume this is genuinely a 'saltire' (ah heh)

I mean this is mindboggling..

"The UK has been named the worst place to live in Europe for quality of life, behind countries with damaged economies such as Ireland and Italy, according to the latest uSwitch quality of life index.
The UK emerged as having the second lowest hours of sunshine a year, the fourth highest retirement age, and the third lowest spend on health as a percentage of GDP."

Independence doesn't just mean political separation. They'll be lugging the entire new country south towards the equator..

Edited by Ridgemont on Thursday 11th February 14:05

[AC43]

Parsnip said:

Same, I see a Scotland flag now and I immediatley jump to thinking of the YESNP.

Me too.

To me (as a Scot) they used to be a neutral adjunct to the Union Jack.

Now, as soon as I see one I feel myself going NAT! NAT! Before realising it's just a hotel flying a flag. Maybe. But then going "Hmm, maybe it IS run by a Nat....won't be going there any time soon".

That lot have made their feeling so clear as to how they view people like me they won't be getting a penny of my money any time soon. In fact ever.

[douglasb]

Ridgemont said:

simoid said:

Anyone in a good mood? A scout through this page will sort you out

https://www.facebook.com/How-Can-I-Be-Guilty-Of-Tr...

These are the people who vote yes and will never consider the consequences. Still nonsense about how rich we would be if we were independent.

Buwhahaha - posted from page. Surely this is a spoof? No one would be so self unaware?




edit ....I can only assume this is genuinely a 'saltire' (ah heh)

I mean this is mindboggling..

"The UK has been named the worst place to live in Europe for quality of life, behind countries with damaged economies such as Ireland and Italy, according to the latest uSwitch quality of life index.
The UK emerged as having the second lowest hours of sunshine a year, the fourth highest retirement age, and the third lowest spend on health as a percentage of GDP."

Independence doesn't just mean political separation. They'll be lugging the entire new country south towards the equator..

Yes they are that self unaware. They didn't seem to notice that the News Crasher "Ian Duncan Smith wants to remove voting rights from people on benefits, the sick and disabled" article was sandwichwed between "Priti Patel backs death penalty for murderers earning less than £100,000 a year" and "Astrology now works after ninth planet discovered, says NASA".

They really take stupid to a new level.

[technodup]

That page is something else. A video that says it will prove the ref was rigged is actually a shot of a Yes rally with loads of folk and the question "where are the no voters?". That's it.

And some of the comments...

When we go again get the count done outwith not Scotland ( no one can claim we lied about result) not England ( as it's in England's interest to keep us under their thumb) not Wales ( let's face it they are not going to say yes Scotland has voted for freedom when they haven't got or getting it)
Not Ireland ( as this is basically England) [Eh? Not sure Ireland would agree]

Get the Russians to handle the vote next time [Yep, of the 200 or so countries Russia is clearly the pinnacle of democracy...]

Mare rigged than the North Sea id love to see the proof myself and ur right where was the no voter's cause everyone I know voted yes. [Well with compelling evidence like that...]

get Russia to do the count it's about the only other Country who are not up Cameron's Arse [Aye, all those Europeans are forever kissing the UK arse]


We have to share towns with these cretins. I'm looking forward to 'would have been independence' day on March 24th. I expect those pages to go into meltdown.

[///ajd]

Ministry of truth in action again....

"Opposition parties were furious to discover on Wednesday that SNP members of the finance committee had, at the last moment, vetoed recommendations that the commission should have greater powers to investigate government finances and to make its own assessments of Scotland’s GDP."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/11/ni...

This me, me, me stuff is really starting to get a bit much. Selfish, selfish w*nkers.

[Welshbeef]

///ajd said:

Ministry of truth in action again....

"Opposition parties were furious to discover on Wednesday that SNP members of the finance committee had, at the last moment, vetoed recommendations that the commission should have greater powers to investigate government finances and to make its own assessments of Scotland’s GDP."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/11/ni...

This me, me, me stuff is really starting to get a bit much. Selfish, selfish w*nkers.

New politics and fairness apparently

[NoNeed]

I never thought I would see the day where I aplaud something that came out of Len McClusky but he has asked the best question yet.

How if scotland need support for devo max could it afford seperation? I would love our favourite Mel Gibson wannabies Fluff or Trollburger to answer that, but the best we could hope for is another squirrel.


ETA I know these questiins have been asked here many times, but now it seems major public figures are getting their act together and showing the world what tbese Nazi's are all about

Edited by NoNeed on Saturday 13th February 00:26

[Welshbeef]

NoNeed said:

I never thought I would see the day where I aplaud something that came out of Len McClusky but he has asked the best question yet.

How if scotland need support for devo max could it afford seperation? I would love our favourite Mel Gibson wannabies Fluff or Trollburger to answer that, but the best we could hope for is another squirrel.


ETA I know these questiins have been asked here many times, but now it seems major public figures are getting their act together and showing the world what tbese Nazi's are all about

Edited by NoNeed on Saturday 13th February 00:26

No detriment.
We have paid once why would we pay again - ie raising taxes
Austerity Westminster
Fairness
Let's invest 0.5% of GDP for 5 years it's a tiny number ... My god.
Let's change the stamp duty to be out of synch with rUK result dramatically lower stamp duty take based on the actual sales which went through. Sure a "fair" policy but if no one sold the pricy homes and only the cheapie a did then it's a net loss. That's nurses and policemens jobs were talking about being out st risk.



Don't worry scrap trident lose those high paying jobs and then all work 1 day weeks and have 12 virgins bathe you.

[NoNeed]

Welshbeef said:

NoNeed said:

I never thought I would see the day where I aplaud something that came out of Len McClusky but he has asked the best question yet.

How if scotland need support for devo max could it afford seperation? I would love our favourite Mel Gibson wannabies Fluff or Trollburger to answer that, but the best we could hope for is another squirrel.


ETA I know these questiins have been asked here many times, but now it seems major public figures are getting their act together and showing the world what tbese Nazi's are all about

Edited by NoNeed on Saturday 13th February 00:26

No detriment.
We have paid once why would we pay again - ie raising taxes
Austerity Westminster
Fairness
Let's invest 0.5% of GDP for 5 years it's a tiny number ... My god.
Let's change the stamp duty to be out of synch with rUK result dramatically lower stamp duty take based on the actual sales which went through. Sure a "fair" policy but if no one sold the pricy homes and only the cheapie a did then it's a net loss. That's nurses and policemens jobs were talking about being out st risk.



Don't worry scrap trident lose those high paying jobs and then all work 1 day weeks and have 12 virgins bathe you.

They're mental.

Meanwhile, now i'm back at PC, here's the article.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14271657.Age...If_Scotland_needs_UK_help_to_pay_for_devo_maxhow_could_it_possibly_afford_separation_/


I see now i'm at the PC rather than on my phone that it isn't Len after all, as the facebook page I read stated.


Never mind though I still agree

Edited by NoNeed on Saturday 13th February 01:26

[wings_over]

NoNeed said:

They're mental.

Meanwhile, now i'm back at PC, here's the article.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14271657.Age...If_Scotland_needs_UK_help_to_pay_for_devo_maxhow_could_it_possibly_afford_separation_/


I see now i'm at the PC rather than on my phone that it isn't Len after all, as the facebook page I read stated.


Never mind though I still agree

Edited by NoNeed on Saturday 13th February 01:26

Nothing more then unionist scaremongering

INDEPENDENCE IS INEVITABLE

[NoNeed]

wings_over said:

Nothing more then unionist scaremongering

INDEPENDENCE IS INEVITABLE

Come on guys, who is it

[///ajd]

NoNeed said:

wings_over said:

Nothing more then unionist scaremongering

INDEPENDENCE IS INEVITABLE

Come on guys, who is it

Do you think that's the actual Reverend?

Did he actually vote in the end, despite really living in Bath? That's fraud surely! I understand the more hard of thinking have taken to calling it a riggarendum! Yes - "wangers over bath" voted illegitimately!

[NoNeed]

///ajd said:

Do you think that's the actual Reverend?

Absolutely not!

I just assumed it was a wind up



I bet he doesn't answer McCluskies question

[Welshbeef]

wings_over said:

Nothing more then unionist scaremongering

INDEPENDENCE IS INEVITABLE

BREXIT followed by Scotland splitting from UK but then unable to join EU as it doesn't meet the financial requirements by such a gulf.

Isolated country how would you create trade treaties? Who with?
You'd need super terms with rUK especially BUT if you tried to screw us over on not taking the correct share of the debt be in no doubt those terms would be so punitive the items would be with such high tariffs they simply would be unviable to sell in the RUK and imagine Scottish Scotch would get a big tariff and Welsh scotch hey why not no tariff but then a subsidy of whatever the govt receipt in tariffs for Scottish scotch etc.

The mind boggling stupidity that rUK would put their own people and companies at a disadvantage or even level playing field v another country is laughable. Being out of EU we can subsidise any industry or state aid we choose helping our people

[Garvin]

NoNeed said:

Welshbeef said:

NoNeed said:

I never thought I would see the day where I aplaud something that came out of Len McClusky but he has asked the best question yet.

How if scotland need support for devo max could it afford seperation? I would love our favourite Mel Gibson wannabies Fluff or Trollburger to answer that, but the best we could hope for is another squirrel.


ETA I know these questiins have been asked here many times, but now it seems major public figures are getting their act together and showing the world what tbese Nazi's are all about

Edited by NoNeed on Saturday 13th February 00:26

No detriment.
We have paid once why would we pay again - ie raising taxes
Austerity Westminster
Fairness
Let's invest 0.5% of GDP for 5 years it's a tiny number ... My god.
Let's change the stamp duty to be out of synch with rUK result dramatically lower stamp duty take based on the actual sales which went through. Sure a "fair" policy but if no one sold the pricy homes and only the cheapie a did then it's a net loss. That's nurses and policemens jobs were talking about being out st risk.



Don't worry scrap trident lose those high paying jobs and then all work 1 day weeks and have 12 virgins bathe you.

They're mental.

Meanwhile, now i'm back at PC, here's the article.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14271657.Age...If_Scotland_needs_UK_help_to_pay_for_devo_maxhow_could_it_possibly_afford_separation_/


I see now i'm at the PC rather than on my phone that it isn't Len after all, as the facebook page I read stated.


Never mind though I still agree

Edited by NoNeed on Saturday 13th February 01:26

It is now completely beyond any shadow of a doubt that Scotland can only be independent if it accepts a monumental reduction in living standards - that is just plain fact and only the exceptionally stupid will argue against it.

Sturgeon knows it and will not go for another referendum despite all the threats etc - she knows the game is up but will spout all manner of bilge to keep the emotional and hard of thinking supporters still voting for her and the SNP. If (when) the SNP are voted back into Holyrood with a thumping majority then Scotland will truly have the government it deserves.

Sturgeon will continue to block the 'Smith Commission' activities because the SNP will end up with the worst of all world's if she doesn't. Undeniable accountability, no independence and a drop in funding for Scotland unless she raises taxes. Unless, of course, DC capitulates and keeps the unfair funding in place as well as transferring accountability - this will be, will it not, suicide for the government in the eyes of the rUK and will not happen . . . . . . . will it?