Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Heck if they get FFA and do bid and win then run st a loss that Soton site fair enough.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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simoid said:
Edinburger said:
Can everyone who is overly excited at the £15bn deficit please remember about economic cycles.

I've seen several posts by people clearly nursing semis which crys of "I want to vote them out". All a bit pathetic. Short memories, eh?
Please tell us more about economic cycles re. Scotland spending more than is taxed.
Take it back to the pre oil boom years in the interests of fairness.

It's all finger in the air anyway. Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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r11co said:
Edinburger said:
Yep. Cycle. Take that back to 1960.
I'll call your 1960, and raise you 1699.
Sadly, meaningful records don't go back that far.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Sylvaforever said:
Shar2 said:
Not sure if this is the right place to put this, but I see that a company called Solent Gateway is bidding to take over Marchwood military port near Southampton. Whether we should be selling off a secure port is besides the point, what is interesting is that Solent Gateway is partly owned by the Scottish Government. Why is the SG investing in English infrastructure, when it can't look after its own?
leverage, dispicable as it seems.
Look at any equity fund or investment trust or other investment vehicles and you'd be staggered at which organisations invest where. The why is often the unknown.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Edinburger said:
Take it back to the pre oil boom years in the interests of fairness.

It's all finger in the air anyway. Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
I reckon the figures are accurate to 1%.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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simoid said:
Edinburger said:
Take it back to the pre oil boom years in the interests of fairness.

It's all finger in the air anyway. Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
I reckon the figures are accurate to 1%.
I don't.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Edinburger said:
I don't.
Within 5%?

technodup

7,580 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Edinburger said:
Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
Will that make up the shortfall?

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
Will that make up the shortfall?
Hold on - burger works in England but lives in Scotland? And paid tax through an English tax office? Who knew!?

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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simoid said:
Edinburger said:
Take it back to the pre oil boom years in the interests of fairness.

It's all finger in the air anyway. Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
I reckon the figures are accurate to 1%.
No doubt he would agree with you if they were favourable towards his hilarious cause.

Alas, they aren't.

technodup

7,580 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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simoid said:
Hold on - burger works in England but lives in Scotland? And paid tax through an English tax office? Who knew!?
It's alright, we're fine either way. Derek McKay the new finance 'minister' says our deficit won't be an issue to join the EU... because the UK was at 10% after the financial crisis.

Someone might want to explain to him the difference between an existing member leaving (they sure don't seem happy about Brexit) and a new one joining. Oh and the fact the existing member is the UK and the proposed joiner is a diddy wee wannabe run by political pygmies.

How long will it take Sturgeon to explore all options when she clearly hasn't got any to explore? Gobste wee fk.

There are already murmurings in FB circles of wanting a new FM. That or UDI. laugh

glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
Will that make up the shortfall?
hehe

Leithen

10,868 posts

267 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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technodup said:
t's alright, we're fine either way. Derek McKay the new finance 'minister' says our deficit won't be an issue to join the EU... because the UK was at 10% after the financial crisis.

Someone might want to explain to him the difference between an existing member leaving (they sure don't seem happy about Brexit) and a new one joining. Oh and the fact the existing member is the UK and the proposed joiner is a diddy wee wannabe run by political pygmies.
Does McKay understand that we are not part of the Eurozone? Does he really believe that the EU would allow Scotland membership without the Euro?

Is he thick as mince or just an idiot? Or both? The astonishing thing is that someone put him in charge of Scotland's finances. God help us.

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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The reality is France & Spain will make sure Scotland doesn't join the Euro Zone, that's it end of debate.
Look at how hard the politicians are working on with Denmark/Netherlands to work on packages to make sure they stay, for fear of the Eurozone collapsing.

Do you really think that they'll risk messing with France/Spain's economies by letting a country that is part of the UK (by choice I may add) leave the UK & join Europe?

If anyone really believes this, then they need to have a real hard look at how politics works.

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Friday 26th August 08:35

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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FN2TypeR said:
simoid said:
Edinburger said:
Take it back to the pre oil boom years in the interests of fairness.

It's all finger in the air anyway. Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
I reckon the figures are accurate to 1%.
No doubt he would agree with you if they were favourable towards his hilarious cause.

Alas, they aren't.
Interesting. What is my "hilarious cause" exactly?

This should be good. rolleyes

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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glazbagun said:
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
Will that make up the shortfall?
hehe
How many people in Scotland work for English companies?

How many people in England (and other rUK countries) work for Scottish companies?

See the problem?

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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simoid said:
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Until this financial year, my earnings have never been.m included as I've always paid via English tax offices as I've worked for Engliah companies.
Will that make up the shortfall?
Hold on - burger works in England but lives in Scotland? And paid tax through an English tax office? Who knew!?
Not quite clever clogs.

I live in Scotland, working for a company based in England, working all over the UK.

Point is that until 'S' tax codes were created, all my income was counted as English tax.

In the same way that all UK employees of RBS were counted as Scottish tax and all UK employees of Tesco were counted as English tax regardless of where they live. Etc., etc.

Memory lane, eh? hehe

Nick Grant

5,409 posts

235 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Edinburger said:
all UK employees of RBS were counted as Scottish tax
Really? I thought they had based it on the employee's local tax office.

Hainey

4,381 posts

200 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Nick Grant said:
Edinburger said:
all UK employees of RBS were counted as Scottish tax
Really? I thought they had based it on the employee's local tax office.
They are, and that myth was disproved several times in the run up to the referendum on various boards, Reddit/Scotland being the one that sticks in my head.

Still, its the SNP (who 'burger claims he didn't vote for on the day. Aye right) so facts are secondary to pish.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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technodup said:
Derek McKay the new finance 'minister' says our deficit won't be an issue to join the EU... because the UK was at 10% after the financial crisis.
Logical fallacy, but built on the lie that the SNP have to keep peddling (despite the 'legal advice' not existing, and the letter from the European Commission leaked by their very own Jim Sillars totally contradicting) that Scotland can remain a member of the EU on the back of the UK franchise.

I liken it to someone applying for health insurance being refused because of a pre-existing medical condition (Scotland's 9%) being compared to someone who already has insurance then developing a problem (UK#s 10%).

Derek MacKay is of course the same tool who lied about the Scottish Government being unaware of the cracks on the Forth Road Bridge, despite public records showing that contractual tendering for the necessary repair work went out but was never concluded years before the forced closure.

Edited by r11co on Saturday 27th August 09:27

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