Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
Strocky said:
I've a feeling that once proper business is underway, things will settle down and the SNP will act (and be treated) as the 3rd biggest party in Westminster, time will tell
However having newspaper articles stating the outrage of the SNP MP's eating and drinking habits is just as childish as any of the "antics" of the 56
The SNP will behave like the 3rd party in a two party state where one has a majority? Great!However having newspaper articles stating the outrage of the SNP MP's eating and drinking habits is just as childish as any of the "antics" of the 56
Strocky said:
simoid said:
Strocky said:
I'm beginning to think you've the memory of a goldfish, but rather than type out again, here's one I baked earlier (see bottom of the pic)
Now could you list some policies of whoever you voted for in the GE that you disagree with and why it wasn't enough for you not to lend them your vote?
Believe it or not I don't remember everything you post Now could you list some policies of whoever you voted for in the GE that you disagree with and why it wasn't enough for you not to lend them your vote?
I fundamentally disagree with the stance of the party I voted for in many policy areas. I wasn't sure if you were an SNP member and therefore public disagreement could get you into trouble with the hierarchy.Now... about your source of made up information above - you've been speaking to the dead now, have you?
I assume you knew what I meant by victims being those relatives of the bereaved who have been quite vocal in the press in stating that Megrahi was innocent
Could you elaborate on what actual policy areas you disagree with?
Anyway - I don't see the relevance of your requested elaboration, however: zero hour contracts ban, increasing top rate of income tax, devolving more power to Scotland, 10p rate of tax, guaranteed paid jobs, rent caps, are among the UK wide policies with which I disagree.
Strocky said:
I've a feeling that once proper business is underway, things will settle down and the SNP will act (and be treated) as the 3rd biggest party in Westminster, time will tell
However having newspaper articles stating the outrage of the SNP MP's eating and drinking habits is just as childish as any of the "antics" of the 56
I've a feeling that the phrase 'you never have a second chance to make a first impression' will trump your feeling, and they will continue to be treated with the contempt they deserve.However having newspaper articles stating the outrage of the SNP MP's eating and drinking habits is just as childish as any of the "antics" of the 56
It's like a school trip to Alton Towers at the minute.
ETA
at the Tory (and Labour) benches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4NObZwYJDk&fe...Edited by technodup on Thursday 28th May 16:07
technodup said:
Strocky said:
I've a feeling that once proper business is underway, things will settle down and the SNP will act (and be treated) as the 3rd biggest party in Westminster, time will tell
However having newspaper articles stating the outrage of the SNP MP's eating and drinking habits is just as childish as any of the "antics" of the 56
I've a feeling that the phrase 'you never have a second chance to make a first impression' will trump your feeling, and they will continue to be treated with the contempt they deserve.However having newspaper articles stating the outrage of the SNP MP's eating and drinking habits is just as childish as any of the "antics" of the 56
It's like a school trip to Alton Towers at the minute.
ETA
at the Tory (and Labour) benches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4NObZwYJDk&fe...Edited by technodup on Thursday 28th May 16:07
They have succeeded in making it much more difficult for Labour to be seen to be associating with them, which means any sizeable/co-ordinated resistance to the Conservative Govt will be much much harder than if they'd shown some respect. A fragmented opposition, well done SNP.
technodup said:
've a feeling that the phrase 'you never have a second chance to make a first impression' will trump your feeling, and they will continue to be treated with the contempt they deserve.
It's like a school trip to Alton Towers at the minute.
ETA at the Tory (and Labour) benches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4NObZwYJDk&fe...
LOL, funny to see just the SNP listening to themselves.It's like a school trip to Alton Towers at the minute.
ETA
at the Tory (and Labour) benches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4NObZwYJDk&fe...Edited by technodup on Thursday 28th May 16:07
The tories even got their poshest toff in the history of posh toffs to treat them with respect at the end. A posh tory being exceedingly nice to them, that might have confused them!
On the white roses:
"The white roses were worn in tribute to Hugh McDiarmid, who wrote a poem called The Little White Rose of Scotland."
Hugh McDiarmid
"MacDiarmid listed Anglophobia among his hobbies"
"Letters were discovered showing that he believed a Nazi invasion of Britain would benefit Scotland. In a letter sent from Whalsay, Shetland, in April 1941, he wrote: “On balance I regard the Axis powers, tho’ more violently evil for the time being, less dangerous than our own government in the long run and indistinguishable in purpose." A year earlier, in June 1940, he wrote: “Although the Germans are appalling enough, they cannot win, but the British and French bourgeoisie can and they are a far greater enemy. If the Germans win they could not hold their gain for long, but if the French and British win it will be infinitely more difficult to get rid of them.” Marc Horne in the Daily Telegraph commented: "MacDiarmid flirted with fascism in his early thirties, when he believed it was a doctrine of the left. In two articles written in 1923, Plea for a Scottish Fascism and Programme for a Scottish Fascism, he appeared to support Mussolini’s regime."
So the SNP wore white roses to covertly celebrate their hatred of the English! Nice.
Edited by ///ajd on Thursday 28th May 20:13
///ajd said:
LOL, funny to see just the SNP listening to themselves. I see they are still doing the white rose thing - what is that exactly for?
Symbol of the Jacobite rebellion of 1745 which ended in that glorious victory of culloden and the restoration of the Stuart dynasty. Oh... Hang on.The fact that a number of Facebook nats chose to use '45' as their FB image after the referendum result amused me no end. Silly nats.
To all the cynics and criticisers of the Edinburgh trams:
- Nearly five million passengers have travelled on Edinburgh Trams during the first year
- That's about 370,000 ahead of target
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...
- Nearly five million passengers have travelled on Edinburgh Trams during the first year
- That's about 370,000 ahead of target
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...
Edinburger said:
To all the cynics and criticisers of the Edinburgh trams:
- Nearly five million passengers have travelled on Edinburgh Trams during the first year
- That's about 370,000 ahead of target
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...
- Nearly five million passengers have travelled on Edinburgh Trams during the first year
- That's about 370,000 ahead of target
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...
Is that he same tram system that was supposed to take three years to build but took 6, that was supposed to cost £375m but which will end up costing £1bn and which supposed to run all the way to Leith but only makes it to the end of Princes St?
Another fabulous use of taxpayers' money in Scotland. File alongside Scottish Parliament building.
Trams can work great as part of an integrated transport system, but a single route from city centre to airport, and I believe there was resistance to taking it all the way to the airport, costing twice the original budget can hardly be deemed a success.
I have read that it is actually faster to take the bus to the airport than catch a tram, is that correct ?
I have read that it is actually faster to take the bus to the airport than catch a tram, is that correct ?
Edinburger said:
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
That'll make a big dent in the £600,000,000 overspend then.Revenue targets are easy to fiddle because you can set them where you like.
Corpulent Tosser said:
I have read that it is actually faster to take the bus to the airport than catch a tram, is that correct?
Extensive bus lanes and severe private traffic restrictions see to that.Edited by r11co on Friday 29th May 07:37
AC43 said:
Edinburger said:
To all the cynics and criticisers of the Edinburgh trams:
- Nearly five million passengers have travelled on Edinburgh Trams during the first year
- That's about 370,000 ahead of target
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...
- Nearly five million passengers have travelled on Edinburgh Trams during the first year
- That's about 370,000 ahead of target
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...
Is that he same tram system that was supposed to take three years to build but took 6, that was supposed to cost £375m but which will end up costing £1bn and which supposed to run all the way to Leith but only makes it to the end of Princes St?
Another fabulous use of taxpayers' money in Scotland. File alongside Scottish Parliament building.
Corpulent Tosser said:
Trams can work great as part of an integrated transport system, but a single route from city centre to airport, and I believe there was resistance to taking it all the way to the airport, costing twice the original budget can hardly be deemed a success.
I have read that it is actually faster to take the bus to the airport than catch a tram, is that correct ?
I believe the Edinburgh Trams, buses, etc., are an integrated transport system and the tram does go "all the way to the airport" - straight to the terminal building actually. Visitors collect baggage and walk around 150m to the tram stop. Simples.I have read that it is actually faster to take the bus to the airport than catch a tram, is that correct ?
I can't see how it would be quicker to take the bus to the airport rather than the tram, so no that's not correct.
r11co said:
Edinburger said:
- Set to surpass revenue targets by 3%
That'll make a big dent in the £600,000,000 overspend then.Revenue targets are easy to fiddle because you can set them where you like.
Corpulent Tosser said:
I have read that it is actually faster to take the bus to the airport than catch a tram, is that correct?
Extensive bus lanes and severe private traffic restrictions see to that.Edited by r11co on Friday 29th May 07:37
Based on your last comment I guess you don't spend any time in Edinburgh or in the vicinity of the airport then?
///ajd said:
technodup said:
've a feeling that the phrase 'you never have a second chance to make a first impression' will trump your feeling, and they will continue to be treated with the contempt they deserve.
It's like a school trip to Alton Towers at the minute.
ETA at the Tory (and Labour) benches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4NObZwYJDk&fe...
LOL, funny to see just the SNP listening to themselves.It's like a school trip to Alton Towers at the minute.
ETA
at the Tory (and Labour) benches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4NObZwYJDk&fe...Edited by technodup on Thursday 28th May 16:07
The tories even got their poshest toff in the history of posh toffs to treat them with respect at the end. A posh tory being exceedingly nice to them, that might have confused them!
On the white roses:
"The white roses were worn in tribute to Hugh McDiarmid, who wrote a poem called The Little White Rose of Scotland."
Hugh McDiarmid
"MacDiarmid listed Anglophobia among his hobbies"
"Letters were discovered showing that he believed a Nazi invasion of Britain would benefit Scotland. In a letter sent from Whalsay, Shetland, in April 1941, he wrote: “On balance I regard the Axis powers, tho’ more violently evil for the time being, less dangerous than our own government in the long run and indistinguishable in purpose." A year earlier, in June 1940, he wrote: “Although the Germans are appalling enough, they cannot win, but the British and French bourgeoisie can and they are a far greater enemy. If the Germans win they could not hold their gain for long, but if the French and British win it will be infinitely more difficult to get rid of them.” Marc Horne in the Daily Telegraph commented: "MacDiarmid flirted with fascism in his early thirties, when he believed it was a doctrine of the left. In two articles written in 1923, Plea for a Scottish Fascism and Programme for a Scottish Fascism, he appeared to support Mussolini’s regime."
So the SNP wore white roses to covertly celebrate their hatred of the English! Nice.
Edited by ///ajd on Thursday 28th May 20:13
We all know that we all have some parts of our history which we'd conveniently not brag about.
Einion Yrth said:
Edinburger said:
I can't see how it would be quicker to take the bus to the airport rather than the tram, so no that's not correct.
I have no idea whether it is or not, and since I don't live anywhere near it I have no dog in the fight, but that is a massive logic fail, right there.But airport > city centre journeys are aimed at business travellers and tourists and the tram is a pleasant, easy, efficient and inexpensive option.
Just as important, if not more, than whether it's a few minutes faster or slower than a bus.
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff