Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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AC43 said:
Or maybe some of the walking coranaries in Glasgow could just drink less booze, cut back on the Irn Bru and give up the fags, sweets, chips and fried food.
Well yes but how do you stop someone? And not just send it underground - they know it's killing them they don't give a fk.

No ambition no aspiration no goals no hope. Solve that your a genious.

neelyp

1,691 posts

211 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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What about they just let the market decide how much drink should cost and let people who want to drink it, drink it.
Let us get on with our lives without fussing round us like a mother hen.
Totalitarian state bds.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Welshbeef said:
So minimum unit pricing really has hit the buffers.
Yup! I predicted that a couple of pages ago. Of course only the the parallel universe that is SNP politics could they spin the initial ruling as a positive...

Wee Nippy said:
We welcome this opinion, in which the advocate general confirms that minimum unit pricing is not precluded by EU law, but sets out tests that the national court has to apply.
No st Nicola! The test of course being it "would only be legal if it could be shown that no other mechanism was capable of achieving the desired result of protecting public health."

SNP parallel universe = No means Yes, 45% is a majority, 3rd place makes you the opposition. Fecking unreal. I despair for my compatriots that they give legitimacy to these charlatans.

The real issue of course is that the level proposed would discriminate against non-premium alcoholic drinks such as wines and beer where the price is dictated by the duty level rather than marketing bull and snob value like with (whodathunkit) malt whisky.

The SNP mistakenly thought the Scotch whisky industry would support the move as the minimum price-per-unit proposed would not affect their products' pricing, once again demonstrating the SNP's parochial and ultimately ignorant thinking - failing to appreciate that most drinks companies are multinationals owning brands of wines, beers and spirits including almost all of the Scotch whisky brands.

This is where the SNP will always fail - an independent wee country has a smaller pool of intelligence to call on (as they clearly demonstrate).

Edited by r11co on Thursday 3rd September 13:01

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Taffer said:
This would be the Scottish Government who awarded several contracts for Calmac ferries to Polish and German yards, nearly driving Fergusons to the wall (and killing merchant shipbuilding on The Clyde) before it was rescued by private investors?*

Seeking to be seen as saviours of an industry they nearly killed (they nearly stopped military shipbuiding on The Clyde too) - bravo. rolleyes


  • Yes, I know that EU rules mean no preference for domestic companies, but many other countries seem to win these types of contracts for their own yards, so why not us?
Whilst I agree with your sentiment, it's been the same since the days of Labour @ Holyrood, EU competition laws make member states liable for fines, some member states are happy to risk it, some are'nt

I'm sure if the SNP stuck two fingers up to the EU and we got fined, you'd be on of the first to moan about it

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Troubleatmill said:
SNP goes for standardised testing in Primary Schools.

I expect this to go well.
The Scottish Tories congratulated the SNP on the U-Turn

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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r11co said:
Ve Haff Vays of Keeping You Qviet.

Read it and weep, 'burger, Strocky et al.
The branch level of most political groups is a hive of skulduggery & backstabbing, the bloke in question would be better letting the police handle it rather than publishing a blog which would throw any trial into disrepute

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Strocky said:
The Scottish Tories congratulated the SNP on the U-Turn
So the real tories patting the tartan tories on the back makes everything right?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Strocky said:
r11co said:
Ve Haff Vays of Keeping You Qviet.

Read it and weep, 'burger, Strocky et al.
The branch level of most political groups is a hive of skulduggery & backstabbing, the bloke in question would be better letting the police handle it rather than publishing a blog which would throw any trial into disrepute
So other groups that practice the same thing makes this right?

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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r11co said:
Seems the cozy relationship is being maintained by his successor.

As I said several pages ago, the thinking nats have stopped posting here because they know they are defending the indefensible. With every day and every revelation it is becoming more and more embarrassing. The thick end of the electorate (the Garys) will continue to believe what they want of course (after all, it was the English who caused global warming).
What's your main beef with the relationship?

Muroch being a megalomaniac or the SNP having a powerful ally in the media?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Strocky said:
Whilst I agree with your sentiment, it's been the same since the days of Labour @ Holyrood, EU competition laws make member states liable for fines, some member states are happy to risk it, some are'nt

I'm sure if the SNP stuck two fingers up to the EU and we got fined, you'd be on of the first to moan about it
So because Labour wanted it, that makes it right?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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LOL stroker can you nt defend anything without using your two wrong make it right arguments?

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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NoNeed said:
And to think you've had the cheek in the past to chide posters for posting stuff from WOS or Bella Caledonia etc

At least Tony got some sea out of the deal
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/01/sc...

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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AC43 said:
Or maybe some of the walking coranaries in Glasgow could just drink less booze, cut back on the Irn Bru and give up the fags, sweets, chips and fried food.
Nothing like a sweeping generalism to make you fell better about yourself, Joe Atlas

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Well yes but how do you stop someone? And not just send it underground - they know it's killing them they don't give a fk.

No ambition no aspiration no goals no hope. Solve that your a genious.
I assume you're being ironic? laugh

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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NoNeed said:
So because Labour wanted it, that makes it right?
Nope, I'm pointing out the irony that criticising the SNP on the matter when other Unionist parties have done the same makes you come across as partisan and a bit of a two faced git

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Strocky said:
Murdoch being a megalomaniac or the SNP having a powerful ally in the media?
Oh, you are back! laugh

No issue other than hypocrisy (theirs and yours, seeing how much you have banged on about biased Tory press in this thread).

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Gecko1978 said:
The sad thing about the film was even the true scottish victories were fictionalised (the wooden spears at stirling) but hey it gave the face painters an icon.....a foreign, antisemitic, alcoholic one...who I think was actually born in the USA.

While I am not english (I am welsh as it happens) my cleaners at Stirling used to ask me if I remembered Bannockburn (I have a southern accent having lived near london since I was 11).

Now at first I had no idea what the two hags were gabbling on about in part because I was not then fluent in Jockaniese, I mean who is this Ken fellow they spoke of so often where did he live (or stay to use the local lingo). Once I had got over the language barrier, and was able to converse with the pair of snaggle tooth's, I was able to retort that while I knew bannockburn was a popular tail I had, I felt, more affinity to Culloden.

Alas a friendship was never to blossom.

Just sounds like one that met two s

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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r11co said:
Oh, you are back! laugh
No issue other than hypocrisy (theirs and yours, seeing how much you have banged on about biased Tory press in this thread).
Uber (hark the german) busy at work me old china, but have a quick 5 mins

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Strocky said:
Nope, I'm pointing out the irony that criticising the SNP on the matter when other Unionist parties.....
Take the 'unionist' part out for a minute Strocky as it is clouding your judgement, unless of course you back the "MacAskill principle" that harmful and damaging policy is justified in the pursuit of independence. That being the case stop debating policy as like the SNP you will swivel and turn whatever way that suits - you argue from no position other than disruption.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Strocky said:
NoNeed said:
So because Labour wanted it, that makes it right?
Nope, I'm pointing out the irony that criticising the SNP on the matter when other Unionist parties have done the same makes you come across as partisan and a bit of a two faced git
It matters not one jot if it is a unionist party or a sepratist one, what matters is it is wrong, and idiots like you that will try and defend the Scottish Nazi party no matter what they do just make you look stupid.

What's wrong is wrong and what's right is right wearing a different colour rosette does nothing to change that, nothing at all.


Also saying that the real tories welcoming acytions from the tartan tories is some sort of legitimate validation when all you ever do is slag off the real tories also makes you look stupid.

Edited by NoNeed on Thursday 3rd September 13:24

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