Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[technodup]

Blib said:

Edinburger said:

No different to any other British political party then? Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

So, that's OK then.

It beggars belief anyone could use that as a defence. Especially when their whole schtick is "we're different/better/fairer/more honest than that nasty Wastemonster lot".

[NoNeed]

technodup said:

Blib said:

Edinburger said:

No different to any other British political party then? Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

So, that's OK then.

It beggars belief anyone could use that as a defence. Especially when their whole schtick is "we're different/better/fairer/more honest than that nasty Wastemonster lot".

I thought the same, it's like saying all my neighbours shoplift so it's ok for me to.

[Edinburger]

NoNeed said:

technodup said:

Blib said:

Edinburger said:

No different to any other British political party then? Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

So, that's OK then.

It beggars belief anyone could use that as a defence. Especially when their whole schtick is "we're different/better/fairer/more honest than that nasty Wastemonster lot".

I thought the same, it's like saying all my neighbours shoplift so it's ok for me to.

No, not at all. All political parties and communities have had their fair share of scandals and corruption.

I'm just saying that the SNP are no worse than anyone else.

Well done for creating something that doesn't exist though.

[NoNeed]

Edinburger said:

NoNeed said:

technodup said:

Blib said:

Edinburger said:

No different to any other British political party then? Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

So, that's OK then.

It beggars belief anyone could use that as a defence. Especially when their whole schtick is "we're different/better/fairer/more honest than that nasty Wastemonster lot".

I thought the same, it's like saying all my neighbours shoplift so it's ok for me to.

No, not at all. All political parties an communities have had their daub share of scandals an corruption.

I'm just saying that the SNP are no worse than anyone else.

Well done for creating something that doesn't exist though.

It does exist, it's the SNP that claim it doesn't, it's them that say they are different, they aren't. I would say they are worse.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator-life/spectato...

[Blib]

The SNP seem to be preparing the ROI option. Have referenda until the populace give them the 'correct' answer.

[Edinburger]

NoNeed said:

Edinburger said:

NoNeed said:

technodup said:

Blib said:

Edinburger said:

No different to any other British political party then? Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

So, that's OK then.

It beggars belief anyone could use that as a defence. Especially when their whole schtick is "we're different/better/fairer/more honest than that nasty Wastemonster lot".

I thought the same, it's like saying all my neighbours shoplift so it's ok for me to.

No, not at all. All political parties an communities have had their daub share of scandals an corruption.

I'm just saying that the SNP are no worse than anyone else.

Well done for creating something that doesn't exist though.

It does exist, it's the SNP that claim it doesn't, it's them that say they are different, they aren't. I would say they are worse.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator-life/spectato...

Do you have an official line from the SNP stating that? If not, let's agree to disagree.

[NoNeed]

Edinburger said:

Do you have an official line from the SNP stating that? If not, let's agree to disagree.

Every single sentence they say say starts with the word Westminster, as if that place is wrong or doing wrong.

If they wasn't they most certainly have become "Westminster" they have settled in nicely, they have gone native.


We knew they would, well kost of us did, it's the poor people that wasted theirs votes that thought they would get something different that I feel sorry for.

[r11co]

Edinburger said:

I'm just saying that the SNP are no worse than anyone else.

That's no defence 'burger, and has been pointed out it makes them worse than the rest by the strength of their blatant hypocrisy in portraying themselves as better than the rest...

What is the SNP for?

Jill Stephenson said:

Throughout the referendum campaign and before it, the SNP did not merely criticise the UK parliament, the UK government, London and, in some cases, the English; beyond that, it ran a campaign of vilification and hatred against these. How else can one explain the constant refrain on social media that No voters are ‘Westminster pedo [sic] protectors’? How else can one explain the constant reference to Westminster as ‘corrupt’? That the English are ‘oppressors’?

As an apologist for them 'burger you are complicit.

[r11co]

Today's example of SNP Hypocrisy #1.

Today's example of SNP Hypocrisy #2.

Today's example of SNP Hypocrisy #3.

I made the point much earlier in this thread that the SNP are unprincipled and therefore untrustworthy. Is any more proof of this required?

It is staggering though how the political careers of such blatant liars are allowed to continue unfettered when behaviour like this from members of other parties would result in summary dismissal from public life.

Edited by r11co on Monday 28th September 22:24

[Blib]

r11co said:

Today's example of SNP Hypocrisy #1.

Today's example of SNP Hypocrisy #2.

Today's example of SNP Hypocrisy #3.

I made the point much earlier in this thread that the SNP are unprincipled and therefore untrustworthy. Is any more proof of this required?

It is staggering though how the political careers of such blatant liars are allowed to continue unfettered when behaviour like this from members of other parties would result in summary dismissal from public life.

Edited by r11co on Monday 28th September 22:24

As a Londoner and in reference to the second link, I'd like to reassure Nicola Sturgeon that Scotland is no threat to London either.

[Edinburger]

r11co said:

Edinburger said:

Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

Bullst.

This just in: SNP front bencher involved in dodgy property deals.

If there are fewer examples it is only because they have had fewer opportunities due to their relatively short time holding the reins, but they are doing their damnedest to sink to the bottom of the pile.

However, their brainwashed support will proffer them Teflon™ status for a while yet (looking at you 'burger, you really are a blind fool).

SNP - A Different Brand of Scumbag.

I'm a "blind fool"? Really? Why? I'm no SNP fan boy. All I've said recently here is that while some of the behaviour by some members may be poor, it's absolutely no worse than any that of some members of other political parties.

Do I see a party or policies which I'd rather see have a majority in Holyrood? Today - no.

[Edinburger]

r11co said:

Edinburger said:

I'm just saying that the SNP are no worse than anyone else.

That's no defence 'burger, and has been pointed out it makes them worse than the rest by the strength of their blatant hypocrisy in portraying themselves as better than the rest...

What is the SNP for?

Jill Stephenson said:

Throughout the referendum campaign and before it, the SNP did not merely criticise the UK parliament, the UK government, London and, in some cases, the English; beyond that, it ran a campaign of vilification and hatred against these. How else can one explain the constant refrain on social media that No voters are ‘Westminster pedo [sic] protectors’? How else can one explain the constant reference to Westminster as ‘corrupt’? That the English are ‘oppressors’?

As an apologist for them 'burger you are complicit.

I'm "complicit"? Get a grip.

Who's Jill Stephenson? Not the disgraced academic who suggested it was only people of lower intelligence who were in favour of independence?

Any evidence that it was the SNP who directly "ran a campaign of vilification and hatred"?

[Edinburger]

NoNeed said:

Edinburger said:

Do you have an official line from the SNP stating that? If not, let's agree to disagree.

Every single sentence they say say starts with the word Westminster, as if that place is wrong or doing wrong.

If they wasn't they most certainly have become "Westminster" they have settled in nicely, they have gone native.


We knew they would, well kost of us did, it's the poor people that wasted theirs votes that thought they would get something different that I feel sorry for.

Three points made. Three wrong 'uns. Must try harder.

[Edinburger]

NoNeed said:

Edinburger said:

NoNeed said:

technodup said:

Blib said:

Edinburger said:

No different to any other British political party then? Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

So, that's OK then.

It beggars belief anyone could use that as a defence. Especially when their whole schtick is "we're different/better/fairer/more honest than that nasty Wastemonster lot".

I thought the same, it's like saying all my neighbours shoplift so it's ok for me to.

No, not at all. All political parties an communities have had their daub share of scandals an corruption.

I'm just saying that the SNP are no worse than anyone else.

Well done for creating something that doesn't exist though.

It does exist, it's the SNP that claim it doesn't, it's them that say they are different, they aren't. I would say they are worse.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator-life/spectato...

I've spoken here several times about how the English media portray things so differently from the Scottish media and this is probably an example.

Now, there's a journalist who was hoping for some sort of story and having watched some SNP MPs the best he can say is i) some SNP MPs have drunk alcohol, ii) Mhairi Black has danced in a club, iii) they're staying in Pimlico (so in W like all MPs), and iv) they're adapting to live in London as MPs. Oh dear. The Ed should be reviewing his contribution to the paper.

Or is the biggest scandal that supplies of Scotch haven't been doubled yet. Nothing like stereotyping, eh? Pathetic story in my view. Poor, poor journalism.

[Edinburger]

NoNeed said:

technodup said:

Blib said:

Edinburger said:

No different to any other British political party then? Although far less examples of corruption by the SNP.

So, that's OK then.

It beggars belief anyone could use that as a defence. Especially when their whole schtick is "we're different/better/fairer/more honest than that nasty Wastemonster lot".

I thought the same, it's like saying all my neighbours shoplift so it's ok for me to.

It's not a defence as there's nothing to defend.

[r11co]

Edinburger said:

Who's Jill Stephenson? Not the disgraced academic who suggested it was only people of lower intelligence who were in favour of independence??

There are those who would say this observation is correct, and with hindsight the revelations of the SNP's dirty tactics and constant back pedalling since the referendum campaign would suggest that those who supported it were easily duped.

An unpalatable observation is not necessarily a wrong one.

But knock yourself out 'burger - your defence of the SNP is getting more ridiculous with each day that passes.

Edinburger said:

It's not a defence as there's nothing to defend.

If you say so.

[Edinburger]

r11co said:

Edinburger said:

Who's Jill Stephenson? Not the disgraced academic who suggested it was only people of lower intelligence who were in favour of independence??

There are those who would say this observation is correct, and with hindsight the revelations of the SNP's dirty tactics and constant back pedalling since the referendum campaign would suggest that those who supported it were easily duped.

An unpalatable observation is not necessarily a wrong one.

But knock yourself out 'burger - your defence of the SNP is getting more ridiculous with each day that passes.

To some it may be an unpalatable observation, but it was absolutely a wrong one - just look at all the business leaders and academics who were in favour of independence.

[Edinburger]

r11co said:

Edinburger said:

Who's Jill Stephenson? Not the disgraced academic who suggested it was only people of lower intelligence who were in favour of independence??

There are those who would say this observation is correct, and with hindsight the revelations of the SNP's dirty tactics and constant back pedalling since the referendum campaign would suggest that those who supported it were easily duped.

An unpalatable observation is not necessarily a wrong one.

But knock yourself out 'burger - your defence of the SNP is getting more ridiculous with each day that passes.

Edinburger said:

It's not a defence as there's nothing to defend.

If you say so.

Why do you selectively quote? And then edit your own posts to add other selections?

[anonymous-user]

Edinburger said:

Who's Jill Stephenson? Not the disgraced academic who suggested it was only people of lower intelligence who were in favour of independence?

So then, she was plainly correct.

[Edinburger]

r11co said:

Edinburger said:

Who's Jill Stephenson? Not the disgraced academic who suggested it was only people of lower intelligence who were in favour of independence??

There are those who would say this observation is correct, and with hindsight the revelations of the SNP's dirty tactics and constant back pedalling since the referendum campaign would suggest that those who supported it were easily duped.

An unpalatable observation is not necessarily a wrong one.

But knock yourself out 'burger - your defence of the SNP is getting more ridiculous with each day that passes.

Edinburger said:

It's not a defence as there's nothing to defend.

If you say so.

Meant to say, why is my defence of the SNP "getting more ridiculous with each day that passes"?