Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
AstonZagato said:
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Well, they are just as bad as everyone else. They never said they'd be better. Well, they did but that doesn't matter. Oh and they might be a bit worse in reality but let's ignore that too.
And they're good for Scotland. Even though the NHS is doing worse than the rUK and the Police Scotland reforms have been a disaster. Oh and education outcomes are worse. But other than the NHS, the police and education (the major areas of devolved government), they are doing well. Maybe. Especially as they keep saying they have met most of their manifesto promises (everyone else points out that this is rubbish but I think I'll believe the SNP, thank you).
I particularly like, as a well-off middle class person, that they have preserved my benefits of free prescriptions and free tertiary education, even though they could have spent that money on getting rid of food banks. I also like that they haven't changed my tax rates whilst shouting loudly about Wastemonster cuts. That shows integrity. Well it doesn't but their shouting makes me feel I'm doing a social good arguing against austerity whilst not suffering personally at all to achieve anything positive. Which is nice.
I'll continue to vote SNP, despite there being no logical reasons to do so other than blind nationalism and financial self-interest. Because... Well, just because.
Did I tell you that my wife is English yet?
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Funny. Well, they are just as bad as everyone else. They never said they'd be better. Well, they did but that doesn't matter. Oh and they might be a bit worse in reality but let's ignore that too.
And they're good for Scotland. Even though the NHS is doing worse than the rUK and the Police Scotland reforms have been a disaster. Oh and education outcomes are worse. But other than the NHS, the police and education (the major areas of devolved government), they are doing well. Maybe. Especially as they keep saying they have met most of their manifesto promises (everyone else points out that this is rubbish but I think I'll believe the SNP, thank you).
I particularly like, as a well-off middle class person, that they have preserved my benefits of free prescriptions and free tertiary education, even though they could have spent that money on getting rid of food banks. I also like that they haven't changed my tax rates whilst shouting loudly about Wastemonster cuts. That shows integrity. Well it doesn't but their shouting makes me feel I'm doing a social good arguing against austerity whilst not suffering personally at all to achieve anything positive. Which is nice.
I'll continue to vote SNP, despite there being no logical reasons to do so other than blind nationalism and financial self-interest. Because... Well, just because.
Did I tell you that my wife is English yet?
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More holes in it than a Tetley tea bag, but funny nevertheless.
Edinburger said:
r11co said:
Edinburger said:
Just as a matter of interest r11co, why would you expect me to spend time reading this?
If you choose to comment while uninformed then your comment is worthless 'burger.Gecko1978 said:
I dearly hope we gat evidence of Ms Black basically taking large expenses but not voting on a single issue or attending surgery etc if there is discord between MSP's and MP's then this is where the cracks will cause the most damage.
She's definitely voting on issues, but is yet to hold a surgery.Risky Shift said:
She's definitely voting on issues, but is yet to hold a surgery.
...whereas her predecessor held frequent surgeries in convenient and accessible locations throughout his constituency despite being a shadow cabinet minister.Having said that, I don't think Black is shrewd enough to be one of the 'greedy bunch' - she's all mouth and trousers.
NoNeed said:
To fill that hole an independent Scotland would have needed a 17p increase in the basic rate of tax! The SNP were correct when they said they wanted to create a 'more equal Scotland' - everyone would be equally poorer.NoNeed said:
Sturgeon's got her very own dodgy dossier already. Not wasting any time, that woman.The SNP, which has 54 Westminster MPs, has said it will not back military intervention without a specific authorisation from the United Nations. The party's leader at Westminster Angus Robertson said he was not satisfied with the PM's response to the foreign affairs committee report.
The party's foreign affairs spokesman and former leader Alex Salmond, who missed the debate, has been criticised for attending the unveiling of a new portrait of him in Edinburgh.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34927939
SNP position on Syria, no or can't be bothered seems to be their stance.
Unveiling a f
king picture of him self the vanity is staggering!
The party's foreign affairs spokesman and former leader Alex Salmond, who missed the debate, has been criticised for attending the unveiling of a new portrait of him in Edinburgh.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34927939
SNP position on Syria, no or can't be bothered seems to be their stance.
Unveiling a f
king picture of him self the vanity is staggering!The news has images of protests from labour over cuts to council spending budgets.
North Lanarkshire is facing £45 million of cuts and likely 1100 jobs and funding effects to organisations that get some form of funding from NLC.
My own work being one of them.
The effects of the council tax freeze seems to be biting.
Some heated arguments over the massive gap in oil forecasts with labour and snp clashing.
The clock is ticking for the snp, your lies are becoming more and more exposed.
You can't claim Westminster is at fault for your own paper being a load of ste.
North Lanarkshire is facing £45 million of cuts and likely 1100 jobs and funding effects to organisations that get some form of funding from NLC.
My own work being one of them.
The effects of the council tax freeze seems to be biting.
Some heated arguments over the massive gap in oil forecasts with labour and snp clashing.
The clock is ticking for the snp, your lies are becoming more and more exposed.
You can't claim Westminster is at fault for your own paper being a load of s
te.NoNeed said:
SNP said:
The SNP had argued that oil revenues in the first year of an independent Scotland would be worth about £7billion. According to the new estimates, they will be worth about £130million.
The party has defended its pre-referendum position, claiming UK Government estimates of oil revenues before September 2014 were higher than their own.
Back in May 2014, Salmond was saying:The party has defended its pre-referendum position, claiming UK Government estimates of oil revenues before September 2014 were higher than their own.
Salmond said:
He added when the forecast came out it would look at the “credibility” of an Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR).
Mr Salmond said: “It will look at the credibility of the forecasts of an OBR which says under $100 (£59) a barrel when the Department of Energy and Climate Change is pushing towards $130 (£77) a barrel.
Seems back then he was rubbishing the OBR figures (which are still a lot higher than actual figures today) as too low.Mr Salmond said: “It will look at the credibility of the forecasts of an OBR which says under $100 (£59) a barrel when the Department of Energy and Climate Change is pushing towards $130 (£77) a barrel.
Credibility = ZERO.
As for that portrait, jeez, the SNP is some kind of elaborate brass eye sketch, surely?
Is Chris Morris going to admit he wrote the whole SNP thing as a satire and call off the joke?
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gruffalo said:
SNP position on Syria, no or can't be bothered seems to be their stance.
Unveiling a fking picture of him self the vanity is staggering!
To add insult to injury, the portrait wasn't actually being unveiled. It was 'sold' in a charity auction over a year ago (to SNP front organisation Business for Scotland).Unveiling a f
king picture of him self the vanity is staggering!Look at the date on the cheque...
The SNP foreign affairs spokesperson was either taking the piss or looking for a lame excuse to dodge probably the most crucial parliament debate since he took on the role.
I said before that I have nothing but contempt for SNP voters, and by this latest performance Salmond is demonstrating that so does he.
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