Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

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simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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fluffnik said:
His lies caused an enquiry costing £1.4m of our money, I reckon that deserves enough jail time to cost his job...
You don't give a hoot about our money, you've proved that with thy views on independence rolleyes

Rollin

6,077 posts

244 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Gecko1978 said:
fluffnik said:
Gecko1978 said:
Could be but I suspect not given he can't be forced out
His lies caused an enquiry costing £1.4m of our money, I reckon that deserves enough jail time to cost his job...
The enquiry did not find him liable did it more a misinterpreted statement course we know it was deliberate etc an sleazy like say lying to people about remaining in the EU And using lawyers to hide it.....
You don't hear him frothing about Salmond's bullst. Independence by any means is his mantra though isn't it? Hypocrisy included.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Ecosseven said:
+1 I am no fan of the SNP but surely he has to resign.
Technically I agree, but let's look at the allegations for a minute...
  • Ed Milliband was unelectable? - Check!
  • SNP would prefer a Conservative majority because it would give them a bigger bogey-man to attack? - Check!
Hindsight has proven him 100% correct!

Edited by r11co on Saturday 23 May 08:38

matchmaker

8,463 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Ecosseven said:
RandomTask said:
Strocky said:



By-election beckons
Absolutely shocking behavior. To deliberately lie, falsify a claim. Allow an inquiry to take place costing £1.5m then after the election to own up to it. I can't see how he can continue as an MP.
+1 I am no fan of the SNP but surely he has to resign.
He won't. Because the lying scumbag knows that a by-election would cost the Libdems their last UK parliament seat in Scotland. His majority went from 10,000 over Labour (or Conservative - can't remember which) to 800 over SNP.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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matchmaker said:
He won't. Because the lying scumbag......
....is in fact Ms. Sturgeon. Turns out she jumped the gun on the enquiry because Carmichael issued an apology thinking she had the upper hand.

What the enquiry sanctioned him for was leaking the memo and then denying all knowledge, but contrary to Sturgeon's assertion that its contents were "100% false" the enquiry states they were an accurate account of events.

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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So did Sturgeon say it or not...?

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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simoid said:
So did Sturgeon say it or not...?
Officially, yes she did.

voyds9

8,488 posts

282 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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What I'm struggling to accept is that the civil service would appoint someone to take minutes of a meeting that couldn't with any certainty get them right.

iphonedyou

9,234 posts

156 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Her denial on, inter alia, BBC News the other day was quite disingenuous, in my view. I've no doubt, personally, that she said it. Such were the terms of her denial.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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voyds9 said:
What I'm struggling to accept is that the civil service would appoint someone to take minutes of a meeting that couldn't with any certainty get them right.
{cough} GCHQ {cough}

Public record now states that the record of events in the memo is accurate. This story is being mis-reported and Sturgeon is lying.

Add that one to the pile.

Edited by r11co on Sunday 24th May 01:25

Rollin

6,077 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Silence from grudgenik and stroppy. Looks like your first minister expressed a preference to not "lock the tories out of number 10" rofl



anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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If it wasn't so fking irritating, it would be funny. What an awful bunch of people the Braveheart Bunch are up there.

Makes you wonder who would trade with them if they get their independence. Everything they say or do ends up being 2 faced at best, or a lie if you'd prefer, or spun to suit their needs,or never good enough. Would the EU accept them, knowing how nothing is ever good enough for them and all they do is take take take and then claim victimisation and then want to take more?

There are only two truly abhorrent political parties in the UK. And strangely, both end with the same two words... "... National Party".

Nesbits.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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OpulentBob said:
There are only two truly abhorrent political parties in the UK. And strangely, both end with the same two words... "... National Party".
Indeed. After all the hugging and shows of solidarity after the first leaders' debate, even the Greens now hate them.

Strocky

2,630 posts

112 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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So based on a leaked report whose own author states they doubt the comments attributed to the FM, denied by both parties (FM & FA), then Carmichael who gave to ok to leak the memo who subsequently has had to apologise and states in the apology "the details of that account are not correct" the Britnats on here trumpet the findings of the investigation as some kind of vindication laugh

Some pull Nicola Sturgeon has, managing to get a French Ambassador and a Senior Lib Dem minister (at the time) to lie on her behalf

There's being blinded by hatred and just being plain thick

Strocky

2,630 posts

112 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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r11co said:
OpulentBob said:
There are only two truly abhorrent political parties in the UK. And strangely, both end with the same two words... "... National Party".
Indeed. After all the hugging and shows of solidarity after the first leaders' debate, even the Greens now hate them.
Anything to back this assertion up?

///ajd

8,964 posts

205 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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ah but the account was not falsified. it may have been subject to doubt, but it obvious alistair thought it was legit and explosive. he didn't lie or make it up, but should NOT have denied leaking it - that is his mistake.

compared with the deliberate lies by salmond on the EU, it is trivial.

i can readily recognise where alistair has gone wrong, and he has apologised.

what did salmond do about his EU lies? salmond is ten times the liar that you acuse alistair of being.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

167 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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So, here we are - Volume 7.

I see the mood has changed since I was last here. Some new posters and, I suspect, some rebranded ones.

But I see the general mood has now changed to "we wish you would all just fk off and leave the UK"?

How odd.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

167 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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OpulentBob said:
If it wasn't so fking irritating, it would be funny. What an awful bunch of people the Braveheart Bunch are up there.

Makes you wonder who would trade with them if they get their independence. Everything they say or do ends up being 2 faced at best, or a lie if you'd prefer, or spun to suit their needs,or never good enough. Would the EU accept them, knowing how nothing is ever good enough for them and all they do is take take take and then claim victimisation and then want to take more?

There are only two truly abhorrent political parties in the UK. And strangely, both end with the same two words... "... National Party".

Nesbits.
Am I the only one who see the funny side of the above post written by someone based in India?

AstonZagato

12,652 posts

209 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Has it?

I wouldn't say that the tone has moved to that - there was always a bit of that. Perhaps it has moved fractionally.

I think there has been a worsening of the English/Scottish relationship though. The English really didn't care one way or the other (to the huge annoyance of the Nats - there is nothing worse than your nemesis not even bothering to consider you).

The attitude is mainly the same but the English have woken up to the fact that there are a large minority of Scottish who are whiney whinging haters. We would prefer that they realise that they are a minority, respect that settled will of their fellow Scots and shut the feck up for the generation that they promised. But if they want to continue their petulant rants, we really don't care if they feck off. We don't wish them ill but if, as is most likely, they implode spectacularly in a blizzard of fiscal impropriety, we will enjoy a quiet moment of Schadenfreude before getting on with our lives.
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