Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
technodup said:
Standing up for Scotland'. One of those nothing phrases so often used by blowhards and talkers of utter s
te. What's she actually achieving?
She's a loser. She's desperately trying to find any means of keeping the faithful plebs happy without having to call yet another referendum. Why is she not calling it? Because she'll lose it. Again.
And that is her finished.
She'll keep this theme rumbling on for the next couple of years throughout the whole of the negotiations with the EU once article 50 is triggered.te. What's she actually achieving?She's a loser. She's desperately trying to find any means of keeping the faithful plebs happy without having to call yet another referendum. Why is she not calling it? Because she'll lose it. Again.
And that is her finished.
Enough time for the price of oil to have crept back up. Only then will she chance her arm.
Rickeh said:
This. I didn't vote SNP but she's doing a cracking job of standing up for Scotland whilst the rest of British politics is a shambles.
Hmmm, but her real job is the administration of the Scottish Government, not politicking around Europe in circles where quite frankly she does not belong. In the meantime this serves as massive misdirection from the real and growing issues in NHS Scotland and our schools.Cobnapint said:
technodup said:
Standing up for Scotland'. One of those nothing phrases so often used by blowhards and talkers of utter ste. What's she actually achieving?
She's a loser. She's desperately trying to find any means of keeping the faithful plebs happy without having to call yet another referendum. Why is she not calling it? Because she'll lose it. Again.
And that is her finished.
She'll keep this theme rumbling on for the next couple of years throughout the whole of the negotiations with the EU once article 50 is triggered.te. What's she actually achieving?She's a loser. She's desperately trying to find any means of keeping the faithful plebs happy without having to call yet another referendum. Why is she not calling it? Because she'll lose it. Again.
And that is her finished.
Enough time for the price of oil to have crept back up. Only then will she chance her arm.
t by that point? And she'll no doubt be assuming that any remaining oil workers will be quite happy to get hit by the inevitably higher income tax to pay for the bullst and bluster? Nippy stty surely can't be as arrogant to think people are not able to move to say, oooh, south of the border to escape this? simoid said:
It's weird. Surely this the worst EVER time to consider independence, yet the nationalists still bleat on evermore... it would be a seriously good strategy to shut the fk up or fk the fk off, as Malcolm Tucker possibly said, for at least a decade or so and then try again.
Would our yes supporters here agree that they look desperate and infantile?
Surely it would be weird if the SNP did nothing? k up or fk the fk off, as Malcolm Tucker possibly said, for at least a decade or so and then try again.Would our yes supporters here agree that they look desperate and infantile?
Edited by simoid on Monday 27th June 18:13
There's a clear difference between the wishes of the people of Scotland and the majority of UK voters. So it's surely quite right that the SNP at least look into options.
wobert said:
As an aside to political leanings in this thread, I visited "downtown" Edinburgh last night.
As "Scotland's front window to the world" I was amazed at the number of beggars on the streets and the amount of rubbish flying around in the breeze. ( I was walking from the Omni up Leith St and onto Princes St, so hardly the run down back streets).
I know all cities have similar issues, but I was surprised at how dirty and unloved the place looked.
Perhaps Nicola needs to fix the issues at home before worrying about those further afield...?
Have you just emerged from a coma?As "Scotland's front window to the world" I was amazed at the number of beggars on the streets and the amount of rubbish flying around in the breeze. ( I was walking from the Omni up Leith St and onto Princes St, so hardly the run down back streets).
I know all cities have similar issues, but I was surprised at how dirty and unloved the place looked.
Perhaps Nicola needs to fix the issues at home before worrying about those further afield...?
Edited by wobert on Tuesday 28th June 16:25
All cities heaven issues with beggars.
While Edinburgh isn't perfect, it's still one of the UK's most stunning cities.
DocJock said:
Man, Sturgeon really is coming across poorly, acting like a jumped-up wee blowhard.
She seems to forget she is just a regional administrator. Sadiq Khan represents more than twice as many people as her but you don't see him shrieking and jumping around like Donkey in Shrek.
She's a "regional administrator"?She seems to forget she is just a regional administrator. Sadiq Khan represents more than twice as many people as her but you don't see him shrieking and jumping around like Donkey in Shrek.
What a stupid comment.
fluffnik said:
Independence in Europe, as per longstanding SNP policy.
She can't actually deliver either though. And can we stop calling it independence? The clue is in the word Union.Basically she's been forced into a dead end by Brexit, and is now flashing her tits around Europe in the hope that some desperate eurocrat fancies slipping her a length. And it's not going well.
Hardly surprising really, given the state of her. Should have sent Tasmina.
Edinburger said:
wobert said:
As an aside to political leanings in this thread, I visited "downtown" Edinburgh last night.
As "Scotland's front window to the world" I was amazed at the number of beggars on the streets and the amount of rubbish flying around in the breeze. ( I was walking from the Omni up Leith St and onto Princes St, so hardly the run down back streets).
I know all cities have similar issues, but I was surprised at how dirty and unloved the place looked.
Perhaps Nicola needs to fix the issues at home before worrying about those further afield...?
Have you just emerged from a coma?As "Scotland's front window to the world" I was amazed at the number of beggars on the streets and the amount of rubbish flying around in the breeze. ( I was walking from the Omni up Leith St and onto Princes St, so hardly the run down back streets).
I know all cities have similar issues, but I was surprised at how dirty and unloved the place looked.
Perhaps Nicola needs to fix the issues at home before worrying about those further afield...?
Edited by wobert on Tuesday 28th June 16:25
All cities heaven issues with beggars.
While Edinburgh isn't perfect, it's still one of the UK's most stunning cities.
I've been to cities all over the world including Chicago, New York and most of the capital cities in Europe.
All were cleaner than central Edinburgh and the beggars that were there, were less visible. One guy was parked on a double mattress with his dog outside BHS on Princes St.
I agree, the architecture is a great asset to the city, but as a "mere visitor" I was astounded at the amount of rubbish everywhere and how unloved it all looked.
Both Chicago and NY were significantly cleaner from a litter point of view.
If this is indicative of how you look after and treat your Capital city's assets as a draw for tourists then God help those down the back streets!
But then as a visitor, what would I know.....
Edited by wobert on Wednesday 29th June 21:51
fluffnik said:
I see only a strong political leader with a better mandate than most doing her job.
The people of Scotland want to stay in the EU, to a greater extent than they want to stay in the UK, our FM is on the case.
She has my full support.
fThe people of Scotland want to stay in the EU, to a greater extent than they want to stay in the UK, our FM is on the case.
She has my full support.
k your bullst. You have no right to say that.The people of Scotland voted for the UK to remain in the EU. Not Scotland.
Edinburger said:
Surely it would be weird if the SNP did nothing?
No it wouldn't. They are there to apply local governance to Scotland which democratically decided it wanted to be part of the UK. Not to circumvent to result of a UK wide democratic vote which happens not to agree with the views of 'some' of the people of Scotland.Cobnapint said:
Edinburger said:
Surely it would be weird if the SNP did nothing?
No it wouldn't. They are there to apply local governance to Scotland which democratically decided it wanted to be part of the UK. Not to circumvent to result of a UK wide democratic vote which happens not to agree with the views of 'some' of the people of Scotland.The role of the Scottish Govt - is to deliver the best service within their remit to the local population.
EU Membership is not on their remit.
Delivering the best quality healthcare, education etc - is in their remit.
They are piss poor at delivering that also.
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
She's a "regional administrator"?
What a stupid comment.
That's exactly what she is. No real power. Given a few responsibilities to shut her up and now she's taking the piss.What a stupid comment.
She should concentrate on trying to sort out the s
t on her doorstep before trying to cozy up with the neighbours who clearly are not interested in the little scruff anyway.technodup said:
Edinburger said:
She's a "regional administrator"?
What a stupid comment.
That's exactly what she is. No real power. Given a few responsibilities to shut her up and now she's taking the piss.What a stupid comment.
anyways the Spanish got it spot on when they said the EU should only listen to the UK Gov
not the Crankies.....
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