Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[bigkeeko]

Cobnapint said:

After having no luck in Brussels, you-know-who is still desperately trying to make the headlines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36693048

Keep scraping the bottom of that barrel Nichola......

After being chased out of Brussels and being told to more or less `wisen up` she has to obviously come back on the stage with something. It'll give her doting followers something to chug themselves about and slap on facebook.

[Edinburger]

confused_buyer said:

fluffnik said:

...and at least some of them only voted "No" because of the lie that only a "No" vote would guarantee Scotland's place in the EU.

That maybe true, but now Scotland has two new choices:

1. Out of the EU and in the UK
2. Out of the EU and out of the UK

They're the options and there's not a lot anyone can do about it.

Or:

3. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar and London remain in the UK and EU and England & Wales secedes.

[Edinburger]

Garvin said:

Cobnapint said:

After having no luck in Brussels, you-know-who is still desperately trying to make the headlines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36693048

Keep scraping the bottom of that barrel Nichola......

It does show an enormous amount of desperation to stay in the lime light doesn't it. I do not recall anyone, on either side of the debate, raising any notion that existing EU residents would be treated any differently. It really is a non-issue!

Perhaps the government should reply requesting confirmation that, in the unlikely event of Scottish independence, the rights of all English residents in Scotland will be guaranteed.

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

[Edinburger]

Usual self-proclaimed experts have a lot to say about the outcome of Ms Sturgeon's initial talks... even though nothing meaningful has been published yet.

[Edinburger]

technodup said:

Garvin said:

Cobnapint said:

After having no luck in Brussels, you-know-who is still desperately trying to make the headlines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36693048

Keep scraping the bottom of that barrel Nichola......

It does show an enormous amount of desperation to stay in the lime light doesn't it. I do not recall anyone, on either side of the debate, raising any notion that existing EU residents would be treated any differently. It really is a non-issue!

She's like the very dregs of the reality show desperados who flash their gash getting out of taxis, all to get on the sidebar of shame on the Mail website.

Literally nobody mentioned the issue during the campaign, she's just saying anything to get a few column inches and stay 'relevant' when she's anything but. What's next? 'Nicola Sturgeon gets EU tattoo' on her ankle? The ring of stars around her nipple?

#purgethesturge

Have you seen the sort of people using that hashtag on Twitter?

[Rollin]

Edinburger said:

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

Scotland didn't have a separate referendum to the rest of the UK.

[Garvin]

Edinburger said:

Garvin said:

Cobnapint said:

After having no luck in Brussels, you-know-who is still desperately trying to make the headlines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36693048

Keep scraping the bottom of that barrel Nichola......

It does show an enormous amount of desperation to stay in the lime light doesn't it. I do not recall anyone, on either side of the debate, raising any notion that existing EU residents would be treated any differently. It really is a non-issue!

Perhaps the government should reply requesting confirmation that, in the unlikely event of Scottish independence, the rights of all English residents in Scotland will be guaranteed.

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

I would have a lot to say eh? You obviously believe yourself to be clairvoyant in some way - keep polishing that crystal ball (or do you use tarot cards?)

Ms Sturgeon had no reason to raise this. IMHO, she has done it to raise the spectre of racism where none exists to create as much disquiet in Scotland as she can. It is the politics of the gutter trying to destabilise and worry EU residents for her own ends. It is nothing short of disgraceful and disgusting behaviour.

[Edinburger]

Garvin said:

Edinburger said:

Garvin said:

Cobnapint said:

After having no luck in Brussels, you-know-who is still desperately trying to make the headlines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36693048

Keep scraping the bottom of that barrel Nichola......

It does show an enormous amount of desperation to stay in the lime light doesn't it. I do not recall anyone, on either side of the debate, raising any notion that existing EU residents would be treated any differently. It really is a non-issue!

Perhaps the government should reply requesting confirmation that, in the unlikely event of Scottish independence, the rights of all English residents in Scotland will be guaranteed.

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

I would have a lot to say eh? You obviously believe yourself to be clairvoyant in some way - keep polishing that crystal ball (or do you use tarot cards?)

Ms Sturgeon had no reason to raise this. IMHO, she has done it to raise the spectre of racism where none exists to create as much disquiet in Scotland as she can. It is the politics of the gutter trying to destabilise and worry EU residents for her own ends. It is nothing short of disgraceful and disgusting behaviour.

Racism? Are we back in page 2 of volume 1? Jeez.

[Edinburger]

Rollin said:

Edinburger said:

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

Scotland didn't have a separate referendum to the rest of the UK.

Correct. But Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome (as I said).

As did Northern Ireland, London and Gibraltar.

[technodup]

Edinburger said:

Or:

3. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar and London remain in the UK and EU and England & Wales secedes.

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth...

Edinburger said:

Usual self-proclaimed experts have a lot to say about the outcome of Ms Sturgeon's initial talks... even though nothing meaningful has been published yet.

I wonder why that would be...

Let's face it, nothing meaningful happened. If it did she'd be shouting it from the roof of Bute House.

Edinburger said:

Have you seen the sort of people using that hashtag on Twitter?

Can't say I have, I don't use Twitter. I saw it on a video linked here and liked it.

Whoever is using it has a shared aim with myself, so they can't be that bad. Good unionists I would suspect. Possibly the sort like one of my 'acquaintances' who was recently in court for gubbing one of your lot on the pitch at Hampden.

[Garvin]

Edinburger said:

Racism? Are we back in page 2 of volume 1? Jeez.

No, we are dealing with Sturgeon's current behaviour. I, for one, will not be put off calling people's behaviour for what it is because of some PC bullst.

If not to cause some upset then perhaps you can enlighten me as to why she raised this topic?

[Rollin]

Edinburger said:

Rollin said:

Edinburger said:

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

Scotland didn't have a separate referendum to the rest of the UK.

Correct. But Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome (as I said).

As did Northern Ireland, London and Gibraltar.

So did Manchester. So what? No UK area had a separate vote.

[Borghetto]

Edinburger said:

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

Good old Sturge, I think she's started a trend. I hear a rumour that all the other UK County Councils are hiring a coach to visit Brussels and tell them "not me Guv" we voted to stay in; any chance of a separate deal.

[ellroy]

Why not house by house? Everyone gets what they want then.

Oh, yes because the vote to remain, for a generation, means that you abide by the democratic decision of the U.K. that your countrymen voted to remain part of.

I don't like it, I voted to remain, but ffs grow up. It's called democracy.

[hidetheelephants]

bigkeeko said:

Cobnapint said:

After having no luck in Brussels, you-know-who is still desperately trying to make the headlines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36693048

Keep scraping the bottom of that barrel Nichola......

After being chased out of Brussels and being told to more or less `wisen up` she has to obviously come back on the stage with something. It'll give her doting followers something to chug themselves about and slap on facebook.

So she's throwing her lot in with the depraved media who are willing to frighten EU migrants with the groundless suggestion they might be deported; there's two problems with this 1) it's bks as they're a significant part of the economy and we don't want them to go home 2) by what legal measure can it be done? IANAL but I suspect there isn't one that could feasibly be voted through by parliament as they aren't fascists.

[Cobnapint]

Edinburger said:

Scotland voted differently to the referendum outcome. If Ms Sturgeon ignored that and did nothing, you'd have a lot to say about that!

Irrelevant. As you know.

She has as much right to go demanding what she is, as individual counties have - and that's NONE.

Edited by Cobnapint on Sunday 3rd July 18:15

[Edinburger]

contango said:

Just remember it's trollburger you are responding to, it's all a game to them!

Grow up.

[Edinburger]

Cobnapint said:

Irrelevant. As you know.

She has as much right to go demanding what she is, as individual counties have - and that's NONE.

Edited by Cobnapint on Sunday 3rd July 18:15

Disagree. You can't compare the argument of a county with the argument of a country. Simple as.

[Edinburger]

Garvin said:

No, we are dealing with Sturgeon's current behaviour. I, for one, will not be put off calling people's behaviour for what it is because of some PC bullst.

If not to cause some upset then perhaps you can enlighten me as to why she raised this topic?

When did I say it was PC?

You're wrong because (as has been covered by numerous people numerous times on this thread) Scottish nationalism for the overwhelming majority of people is on no way connected to any perceived hatred or dislike of non-Scots.

Simple as that. It's about improving circumstances for the people of Scotland.

Can't believe that ridiculous claim is still emerging on this thread.

[Edinburger]

Ruth has spoken: a possible second Scottish independence referendum should not be blocked by the UK government

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...