Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
GoneAnon said:
As for the fracking - the SNP have put a moratorium in place while the science is studied.
Are you really gullible enough to believe that rubbish? Fracking has been going on for years, I did my first frack in 1990 and it had been going on long before then. The science is fully understood, fracking has already been happening both on and offshore in Scotland and oil and gas from fracked wells has been flowing through Scottish refineries for many years.
The SNP opposition to fracking is a load of bulls
t designed to appeal to the hard of thinking, especially when you consider that they go on about Scotland being a major oil producing economy.Pooh said:
GoneAnon said:
As for the fracking - the SNP have put a moratorium in place while the science is studied.
Are you really gullible enough to believe that rubbish? Fracking has been going on for years, I did my first frack in 1990 and it had been going on long before then. The science is fully understood, fracking has already been happening both on and offshore in Scotland and oil and gas from fracked wells has been flowing through Scottish refineries for many years.
The SNP opposition to fracking is a load of bulls
t designed to appeal to the hard of thinking.GoneAnon - you are just another one of the useful idiots. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.
r11co said:
Why have costs gone up 10 times compared to the previous four years, since 56 SNP MPs were voted in? That is one hell of a rate of inflation.
There are none so blind as those that will not see.
There are none so blind as those that will not see.
r11co said:
simoid said:
Again, the costs haven't gone up 10x. The money spent on business class has.
)If a knuckledragging, gullible, useful idiot f
kwit like me can get it, maybe you should try some of the kool-aid yourself? Or nip down to Specsavers. Or get "Big Sums For Dummies" from the Early Learning Centre.GoneAnon said:
Or get "Big Sums For Dummies" from the Early Learning Centre.
Aww, come ON! I've given you over two hours to come back with a crack about the SNP having all the copies, or that being the book the SNP Finance Minister uses, or something equally clever and amusing. Terribly, terribly disappointed.
GoneAnon said:
Aww, come ON!
I've given you over two hours to come back with a crack about the SNP having all the copies, or that being the book the SNP Finance Minister uses, or something equally clever and amusing. Terribly, terribly disappointed.
You're in no position to talk about sums... you want to start an independent country when we currently spend £4 for every £3 we tax.I've given you over two hours to come back with a crack about the SNP having all the copies, or that being the book the SNP Finance Minister uses, or something equally clever and amusing. Terribly, terribly disappointed.
GoneAnon said:
Coe back and tell me how much debt every man, woman, and child is carrying thanks to Westminster's "management".
A trillion or so between 63 million. Much rather that than the absolute clusterfk catastrophe that we'd be in just now if enough muppets had voted yes.And you'd do well to remember that.
You're welcome, once again.
According to this http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/
we are now over £1,756,000,000,000 on the national debt.
Popping that into Excel (because my calculator isn't good at big sums like that) and dividing by 63,000,000 people I get £27,778 for each of us. Now, in my book of "Big Sums For Dummies" I read that it would be better for me to owe £10k than it is to owe £27k. Or did I get that wrong?
But wait... the same website says "Mainstream media headlines today are focused on Britain's record national debt, which just surpassed £1 trillion, a figure that can only exponentially increase unless the entire mechanism of Government finance is overhauled. The truth however is much worse, factoring in all liabilities including state and public sector pensions, the real national debt is closer to £4.8 trillion, some £78,000 for every person in the UK."
Gulp - it looks like I'm going to need a bigger spreadsheet.
Nope, according to this https://www.nao.org.uk/highlights/whole-of-governm...
I'm going to need a bigger computer to compare UK spending to revenue.
we are now over £1,756,000,000,000 on the national debt.
Popping that into Excel (because my calculator isn't good at big sums like that) and dividing by 63,000,000 people I get £27,778 for each of us. Now, in my book of "Big Sums For Dummies" I read that it would be better for me to owe £10k than it is to owe £27k. Or did I get that wrong?
But wait... the same website says "Mainstream media headlines today are focused on Britain's record national debt, which just surpassed £1 trillion, a figure that can only exponentially increase unless the entire mechanism of Government finance is overhauled. The truth however is much worse, factoring in all liabilities including state and public sector pensions, the real national debt is closer to £4.8 trillion, some £78,000 for every person in the UK."
Gulp - it looks like I'm going to need a bigger spreadsheet.
Nope, according to this https://www.nao.org.uk/highlights/whole-of-governm...
I'm going to need a bigger computer to compare UK spending to revenue.
Yup. Massive debt per person. Why anyone would choose to shoulder that debt with 5-6m Scots and not 63m Brits is beyond me. Especially when the Brits know what currency they're using next week, and have a central bank...
Oh and the £10k per person is Scotland's cumulative deficit in the last 5 years (£60bn or so IIRC). Financed by your United Kingdom (be sure to thank them too - I'm sure you will.)
Scotland would be utterly fked with a rusty spike by now if the SNP et al had got their yes vote. We probably would've been cutting public spending by about £3k a head just to make our first year as a country, and that's before we think about the lower tax revenues due to companies reorganising and billions of pounds/euros/dllars/Salmonds required to actually set up iScot.
But just you continue to moan about a particular subset of politicians like our problems would all go away if we escaped the English.
Oh and the £10k per person is Scotland's cumulative deficit in the last 5 years (£60bn or so IIRC). Financed by your United Kingdom (be sure to thank them too - I'm sure you will.)
Scotland would be utterly f
ked with a rusty spike by now if the SNP et al had got their yes vote. We probably would've been cutting public spending by about £3k a head just to make our first year as a country, and that's before we think about the lower tax revenues due to companies reorganising and billions of pounds/euros/dllars/Salmonds required to actually set up iScot.But just you continue to moan about a particular subset of politicians like our problems would all go away if we escaped the English.
simoid said:
Shall we play a game? I've arranged a wee graph from the Scottish Government's figures. Perhaps our resident fans of independence (or others, if the independence masochists have gone quiet) can tell us what it is:
Btw here's Scotland's cumulative overspend/debt/gratefulness to Westminster since the Scottish Parliament "reconvened".simoid said:
simoid said:
Shall we play a game? I've arranged a wee graph from the Scottish Government's figures. Perhaps our resident fans of independence (or others, if the independence masochists have gone quiet) can tell us what it is:
Btw here's Scotland's cumulative overspend/debt/gratefulness to Westminster since the Scottish Parliament "reconvened".How does one spend that much money
1) within the eurozone
2) with 1 groat = 1 pebble or appropriate aggregate material
Scottish independence = Tory Austerity with extra thistles and amphetamines..
15% deficit? Pah! Bring it on!
GoneAnon said:
Blimey, Westminster has done such a great job, I think I'll send them all my wages every month and see how much they can turn it into for me.
There you go again with "Westminster". It's just a group of people who we choose to make our decisions on reserved matters. They play the hand they're dealt. Thank goodness we chose that casino to play in, and not the iScot one.Does it not worry you a little that there was no plan for independence, and we'd have a pile of debt, a massive current account deficit, a bill for independence, etc? With that in mind, I think you really should send all your wages to the exchequer as I'm not sure you can really be trusted with them.
GoneAnon said:
Blimey, Westminster has done such a great job, I think I'll send them all my wages every month and see how much they can turn it into for me.
You do realise it might be moving to Manchester while the renovations of Westminster are cardied out. What will you call it then?Westminster is just a place where they get together as representatives of the UK. A bit like all those senators in Washington or if you prefer all those MSPs in Edinburgh.
simoid said:
Does it not worry you a little that there was no plan for independence, and we'd have a pile of debt, a massive current account deficit, a bill for independence, etc? With that in mind, I think you really should send all your wages to the exchequer as I'm not sure you can really be trusted with them.
Of course it doesn't worry him, because according to the Maharishi Guru Sturgeon independence for Scotland "ultimately transcends the issues of Brexit, of oil, of national wealth and balance sheets".That was Sturgeon's Gerald Ratner moment - the point at which the SNP admitted it was not a political party but a faith cult.
The job of governance is to manage and control the issues she mentioned, and she resigned the post with that most idiotic of statements.
GoneAnon - go join your cult and leave politics to the people who actually want to do it.
BlackLabel said:
"An Aston Martin racing car with the number 007 was parked beside the house. The 46-year-old MP is a “petrolhead” and vintage bike and car enthusiast."
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