Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
NoNeed said:
Do you think that is was right for Scottish MP's to in
Me? I'm not against the people benefitting from their further education making a contribution towards it, I am however against the racist anti-English SNP policy of allowing all EU students to benefit from what the English pay towards but are not allowed to use. YOU?
Good point.Me? I'm not against the people benefitting from their further education making a contribution towards it, I am however against the racist anti-English SNP policy of allowing all EU students to benefit from what the English pay towards but are not allowed to use. YOU?
Sylvaforever said:
And now Nicola wants Scottish pensioners to be forced to use equity from their property to fund their healthcare BUT not before the SG gets 12% off the top so it seems.
A contrived way to say that they are not 'privatising the NHS' insofar as they are not going down the medical insurance route required for people to pay for care, they are just making them put their assets in-hock to pay for it instead. As I said - impressive insofar as they can be blatant hypocrites about it.Interestingly, Dr Paul Monaghan (SNP) MP funds his sheltered housing business using a very similar model, so I wonder where they got the idea from?
Tartan Tories indeed.
Edited by r11co on Wednesday 5th October 15:07
Edinburger said:
It's not a thread about the SNP!
It's a thread about the Scottish independence debate.
However, it's morphed into an anti-Scotland and/or anti-SNP thread.
Don't be disingenuous; the SNP are the only party actively pursuing another referendum, therefore the two are inseparable.It's a thread about the Scottish independence debate.
However, it's morphed into an anti-Scotland and/or anti-SNP thread.
Edinburger said:
So just to be clear, we have a few people agreeing with me and a few people disagreeing.
Of those who disagree, we have a selection of people who have either never been on a tram, or have never been to Edinburgh, and those who are just anti-tram.
Great. Just great.
Can't you see the problem? The best public transport system in Britain is in Edinburgh - the bus network.Of those who disagree, we have a selection of people who have either never been on a tram, or have never been to Edinburgh, and those who are just anti-tram.
Great. Just great.
The worst congestion in Britain is Edinburgh.
The tram is hugely expensive and only adds a small amount of capacity on part of the niche route.
I live less than 10 miles from the airport, and it would take me hours to get there by public transport. The tram does nothing to assist that. The tram is only advantageous as a slightly different way to travel by bus and NOTHING else.
simoid said:
Can't you see the problem? The best public transport system in Britain is in Edinburgh - the bus network.
How are reekie's smelly and bumpy buses trudging through endless traffic better than Glasgow's massive, smooth and punctual train network?I stay one stop from Central. It takes 5mins, 4 on a good day. A bus takes about 15 and that's with a bus lane. And they're always full of prams and junkies (which isn't unique to Glesca).
A magic carpet couldn't get me there quicker, never mind a bus. Or even a fancy tram.
r11co said:
A contrived way to say that they are not 'privatising the NHS' insofar as they are not going down the medical insurance route required for people to pay for care, they are just making them put their assets in-hock to pay for it instead. As I said - impressive insofar as they can be blatant hypocrites about it.
Interestingly, Dr Paul Monaghan (SNP) MP funds his sheltered housing business using a very similar model, so I wonder where they got the idea from?
Tartan Tories indeed.
Link Group, Link House, 2C New Mart Road, Edinburgh, EH14 1RLInterestingly, Dr Paul Monaghan (SNP) MP funds his sheltered housing business using a very similar model, so I wonder where they got the idea from?
Tartan Tories indeed.
Edited by r11co on Wednesday 5th October 15:07
Oh lookie the old Edinburgh connection again maybe burger can go check em out and comeback....
Sylvaforever said:
Link Group, Link House, 2C New Mart Road, Edinburgh, EH14 1RL
Oh lookie the old Edinburgh connection again maybe burger can go check em out and comeback....
Thought I'd do a little more digging into the Link Group. Found this. All very altruistic it appears, until you remember that this was around the same time the SNP were bumping their gums about the 'so-called bedroom tax', and the Scottish Government pledged to spend a proportion of their Barnett money on 'offsetting the effects' (ie. continue to pay housing benefits at exorbitant rates straight into the accounts of housing associations such as Link).Oh lookie the old Edinburgh connection again maybe burger can go check em out and comeback....
Seems it had nothing to do with protecting the vulnerable and everything to do with protecting the income stream of their cronies. Whodathunkit!
Edited by r11co on Thursday 6th October 11:50
s2kjock said:
The SNP were not fans of Housing Associations when they first came into power IIRC.
The SNP are very good at publicly stating they are against something while at the same time quietly facilitating the same thing (like fracking for example). It's what comes from a party with zero principles determined to win a vote at any cost by conning as many voters as possible into believing they are on 'their' side.r11co said:
s2kjock said:
The SNP were not fans of Housing Associations when they first came into power IIRC.
The SNP are very good at publicly stating they are against something while at the same time quietly facilitating the same thing (like fracking for example). It's what comes from a party with zero principles determined to win a vote at any cost by conning as many voters as possible into believing they are on 'their' side.- Incompetence - they aren't a particularly bright bunch. They aren't really fit to be local parish councillors let alone running a major part of the country and sitting in Westminster.
- Greed - they have a moronic group of followers who seemingly don't care how corrupt their masters are as long as they deliver independence.
- Opportunity - their electoral success has allowed them to line their pockets more than anyone else.
- Hypocrisy - no other party has been quite vociferous at claiming their opponents are corrupt and that they offer a new better alternative, so the stink when they are caught with their hands in the till is all the more pungent.
technodup said:
simoid said:
Can't you see the problem? The best public transport system in Britain is in Edinburgh - the bus network.
How are reekie's smelly and bumpy buses trudging through endless traffic better than Glasgow's massive, smooth and punctual train network?I stay one stop from Central. It takes 5mins, 4 on a good day. A bus takes about 15 and that's with a bus lane. And they're always full of prams and junkies (which isn't unique to Glesca).
A magic carpet couldn't get me there quicker, never mind a bus. Or even a fancy tram.
te.technodup said:
oes my nut in every time I see one with the wky v in Edinbvrgh.
I really don't care for Edinburgh full stop tbh. Avoid it like the plague.
I don't mind it too much, once I'm there. Does my tits in sitting in traffic. It's getting worse and the cooncil is doing everything they can to exacerbate it.ky v in Edinbvrgh.I really don't care for Edinburgh full stop tbh. Avoid it like the plague.
Edinburger said:
It's not a thread about the SNP!
It's a thread about the Scottish independence debate.
However, it's morphed into an anti-Scotland and/or anti-SNP thread.
Where does this anti-Scotland pish come from? My suspicion is that most of the posters on here are either Scottish-born or living in Scotland. Don't pretend that you're taking offence on behalf of the nation; we're already paying for nippy Nikki to do that. It's a thread about the Scottish independence debate.
However, it's morphed into an anti-Scotland and/or anti-SNP thread.
Edinburger said:
If the Scottish Government had adjusted Scottish income tax rates to 18% or 22% - just because they could - then you'd all criticise them. They haven't touched, and you're all criticising them.
See the problem?
The town councillors of Holyrood demanded the powers to do so. They claimed it was a necessity. They claimed they needed control so they could change the rules and make the system 'fairer'*. They haven't changed it, which implies that either i) the status quo isn't so bad or ii) the downsides to changing it outweigh the upsides. Either way, it doesn't sit squarely with previous Nat assertions. See the problem?
See the problem?
- Whatever that may mean....
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