Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

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FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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simoid said:
Bluff and bluster even!

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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hidetheelephants

24,335 posts

193 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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New kind of politics my arse; they're just as fallible and subject to feet of clay as the rest of us, the response to the mirror being held up to them no less shabby and self-serving.

Nick Grant

5,410 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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This is interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...

We'll see how much the SNP respect democracy, again.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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"SNP MSPs defended the legislation, saying opponents have not put forward any viable alternatives."

Er, how about the laws we had already about hate crime/breach of peace/drunk and disorderly/whatever?

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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simoid said:
"SNP MSPs defended the legislation, saying opponents have not put forward any viable alternatives."

Er, how about the laws we had already about hate crime/breach of peace/drunk and disorderly/whatever?
Indeed. No-one is asking for this law to be repealed because of the sentiment behind it. The problem with it is that it is badly drafted and makes securing a conviction for a charge brought under it exceptionally difficult, while at the same time making it impossible for those falling within its remit to be charged with more effective and established laws because it specifically defines the type of person it applies to rather than criminalising the activity.

The SNPs' noses are out of joint because this was one of Salmond's pet projects in the early years of his tenure as FM, but it stands as a testament to SNP incompetence on an objective level because it is a demonstrably poor instrument of law.

Cobnapint

8,627 posts

151 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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SO!

How are the 'result of the EU Referendum respecting' SNP going to vote following the High Court's Brexit decision today.

Mmmmm. Now let me think.......scratchchin

HD Adam

5,148 posts

184 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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Cobnapint said:
SO!

How are the 'result of the EU Referendum respecting' SNP going to vote following the High Court's Brexit decision today.

Mmmmm. Now let me think.......scratchchin
This is going to be difficult for them.

"Scotland voted to remain in the EU. If we don't, we need another referendum"

Looks like you could be remaining after all.

No need for independence then? silly

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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HD Adam said:
This is going to be difficult for them.
No it isn't. Nippy Nicky is breathing a sigh of relief over this as it will extend the shelf-life of her Brexit grievance and allow her to prevaricate for longer over the second indyref issue.

Do you honestly think she wants a referendum within the next two years?

Cobnapint said:
How are the 'result of the EU Referendum respecting' SNP going to vote following the High Court's Brexit decision today.
We already know the answer to that. The SNP's interpretation of democracy and their fallacy that is the 'democratic deficit' means that they will vote against triggering A.50. That is an absolute given. As far as they are concerned they will be respecting the vote of the people - the 'Scottish' people.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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BlackLabel said:
She has been remarkably quiet today - to be honest I grateful so please don't think I'm complaining biggrin

hidetheelephants

24,335 posts

193 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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This is what is so unreal about the 'no public dissent with party policy' nonsense that's been in force; I know a few longterm SNP members and if they were transplanted to the home counties they would be tories or even UKIP by their opinions on policy and current affairs.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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B'stard Child said:
She has been remarkably quiet today - to be honest I grateful so please don't think I'm complaining biggrin
She's trying to get in on the action with those who brought the case to court today - anything to try and get some attention.

Scotland could join the Brexit court battle to make sure Theresa May does not win back the power to trigger Article 50, Nicola Sturgeon has said. The First Minister says that Holyrood could join businesswoman Gina Miller and hair dresser Deir Dos Santos as "participants in that case" when it goes to the Supreme Court in early December.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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BlackLabel said:
B'stard Child said:
She has been remarkably quiet today - to be honest I grateful so please don't think I'm complaining biggrin
She's trying to get in on the action with those who brought the case to court today - anything to try and get some attention.

Scotland could join the Brexit court battle to make sure Theresa May does not win back the power to trigger Article 50, Nicola Sturgeon has said. The First Minister says that Holyrood could join businesswoman Gina Miller and hair dresser Deir Dos Santos as "participants in that case" when it goes to the Supreme Court in early December.
Yep, and after that she'll be crossing the Atlantic to help Hillary push for victory.

Delusions of grandeur.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/04/c...

So, more ste from the grievance mob has been put to bed.

Notice that the Guardian won't allow comments, but they did when delays and "broken promises" were being bandied about.

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Do you ever read PPC Magazine? (Practical Performance Car)

If posted on here it would send the self appointed spelling and grammar Nazis absolutely mental

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Nanook said:
B'stard Child said:
Do you ever read PPC Magazine? (Practical Performance Car)

If posted on here it would send the self appointed spelling and grammar Nazis absolutely mental
I used to. I stopped because I was fed up getting a magazine with pages 1-31, followed by pages 2-31 again, then a page 63, then the back cover.
hehe

Hainey

4,381 posts

200 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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r11co said:
BlackLabel said:
B'stard Child said:
She has been remarkably quiet today - to be honest I grateful so please don't think I'm complaining biggrin
She's trying to get in on the action with those who brought the case to court today - anything to try and get some attention.

Scotland could join the Brexit court battle to make sure Theresa May does not win back the power to trigger Article 50, Nicola Sturgeon has said. The First Minister says that Holyrood could join businesswoman Gina Miller and hair dresser Deir Dos Santos as "participants in that case" when it goes to the Supreme Court in early December.
Yep, and after that she'll be crossing the Atlantic to help Hillary push for victory.

Delusions of grandeur.
Delusions of adequacy more like. Hateful troll that she is.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.edinburghnews.sco...

They've finally been able to kick the scroungers out of Holyrood.

(No, not those ones...)

Nick Grant

5,410 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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simoid said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.edinburghnews.sco...

They've finally been able to kick the scroungers out of Holyrood.

(No, not those ones...)
See the comments under that article...

11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this smile....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......


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