Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

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General Price

5,249 posts

183 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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Nick Grant said:
See the comments under that article...

11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this smile....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......


rofl

kowalski655

14,632 posts

143 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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NHS Scotland clearly missing their mental health targets with this one!

hidetheelephants

24,218 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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Nick Grant said:
simoid said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.edinburghnews.sco...

They've finally been able to kick the scroungers out of Holyrood.

(No, not those ones...)
See the comments under that article...

11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this smile....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......
Who the blazes pays any attention to what's written in the comments section of newspaper websites, never mind take credence from the up- or down-voting on the comments? If I go to an article I might comment on it and read whatever the most recent comments are, I don't wade through the reams of drivel that invariably fill them.

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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General Price said:
Nick Grant said:
See the comments under that article...

11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this smile....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......


rofl
LOL, I was just thinking reading that - there isn't enough tin foil in the world to reassure this chap......



FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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That post is a wind up right?

Right? confused

Scary stuff.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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A message to Nicola Sturgeon, right from the heart of her own party.

I have said it all along - Sturgeon would lose a second indyref by a larger margin than the first if she called it on a platform of Scotland remaining within the EU. The SNP are as divided as any other party over the issue of Europe, with the majority of long term members very much against involvement.

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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A sensible and coherent statement from within the SNP.

I've never seen the like.

Cobnapint

8,625 posts

151 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Bloody. Hell.

He'll be suspended from the SNP coming out with sense like that.

I wonder how many freedom fighters will actually read it and understand it.

bigkeeko

1,370 posts

143 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Cobnapint said:
I wonder how many freedom fighters will actually read it and understand it.
Since when has understanding had any bearing on anything with some people?

Edited by bigkeeko on Sunday 6th November 21:32

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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r11co said:
A message to Nicola Sturgeon, right from the heart of her own party.

I have said it all along - Sturgeon would lose a second indyref by a larger margin than the first if she called it on a platform of Scotland remaining within the EU. The SNP are as divided as any other party over the issue of Europe, with the majority of long term members very much against involvement.
Isn't it more likely that the SNP supporters en masse would choose the independence option, and worry about the EU later?

I suppose many of the 45% from last time may choose the U.K. over the EU though.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/10bn-china-d...

Well well - China calling it the "Scottish Shambles".

A laughing stock on the global stage. Also means zero credibility

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Welshbeef said:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/10bn-china-d...

Well well - China calling it the "Scottish Shambles".

A laughing stock on the global stage. Also means zero credibility
Truth-be-told, the deal was questionable because of the history of the companies involved, but the mistake the SNP made was to make such a big deal of the announcement. It exposed their lack of due diligence, and the expiry of the MoU was almost certainly deliberate.

Typical of the SNP though to blame 'the opposition' for the failure of the deal. All 'the opposition' did was point out that the two Chinese companies the Scottish Government planned to deal with had already been blacklisted by the Norwegian government (so I guess it was the Norwegian government's fault too).

It was a bad move on their part from the start, but the SNP are total strangers to legitimate criticism.

Edited by r11co on Monday 7th November 10:22

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Warning signs - look at the state of that chap's tie:


Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Heck between those 2 articles you can see why Krankie is such a fan of the EU, "lack of transparency", controversial investment, etc, etc.

HD Adam

5,147 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Well well, who knew?

Looks like Holyrood gets to decide on Brexit or not.

Someone with ideas above his station said:
Scotland’s Brexit minister has warned that a “huge political force” will be unleashed if MSPs refuse to give consent for leaving the EU – but the UK Government “bulldoze” ahead with it anyway.
Mike Russell said it was possible that judges could rule that Holyrood would have to agree to Brexit before it could happen.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scotlands-brexit-minister-warns-theresa-9212051

I would have thought that Brexit was a devolved matter and MP's would be having a say, not the people who decide when the bins get emptied.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Daily Record said:
Mike Russell said it was possible that judges could rule that Holyrood would have to agree to Brexit before it could happen.
They could also rule that Mike Russell is a supercilious prick who should have stayed retired. This is the man who completely fked up the Scottish Education system, leaving John Swinney to try and reconstruct something from the pieces.

It demonstrates the dearth of talent in the SNP that they keep having to recycle failed politicians like Russell. I guess they were hoping that he'd stayed far enough under the national radar so that the Brexit negotiators wouldn't remember what an arrogant useless he was.

Edited by r11co on Tuesday 8th November 11:29

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Cobblers IMO, just ammunition for the grievance mob "they took us out against our will" and all that jazz.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Can't imagine the US president will be too keen to see his golf course leave the U.K. Just saying.

exitwound

1,090 posts

180 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Now we have Trump as the US President, its the beginning of the end for the nats and their socialist, nanny state.

Once we see how well the US sorts itself out, and we tell the euros to fk off, it'll affect things and attitudes here! The economic divide will get worse here and force us Scots to rethink this socialist world they think is best for them!!

NS must be stting herself this morning, and I'm fking loving it! ..rofl

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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I can't wait for the spin....
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