Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[Hainey]

BlackLabel said:

SNP MP Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh is being pursued by the taxman in a case which could see her suspended from parliament, PoliticsHome has learned.

Someone on this thread a while back did predict that Tasmina would be the next SNP MP to face charges of financial impropriety - well they may just have been correct.

But she's brown. And brown people can do no wrong, they are like angels. That's why the SNP parachute them in whether they are as qualified as a potato or not.

Didn't you get the memo?

[simoid]

She may be brown, but she was also a Tory. And a red one. Wtf!?



"She unsuccessfully stood as a Conservative candidate in the 1999 Scottish Parliament elections. She quit the Tories the following year and was briefly in the Labour party before joining the SNP."

Popped her finger in a few contrasting pies before she noticed which one has the most gravy.

[BlackLabel]

The Record's lead story tomorrow - cue a torrent of abuse from Wings Over Scotland types.

[Hainey]

simoid said:

She may be brown, but she was also a Tory. And a red one. Wtf!?



"She unsuccessfully stood as a Conservative candidate in the 1999 Scottish Parliament elections. She quit the Tories the following year and was briefly in the Labour party before joining the SNP."

Popped her finger in a few contrasting pies before she noticed which one has the most gravy.

Exactly. A deeply ethical and committed person.

To whatever is going to line her pockets that decade, obviously.

[Welshbeef]

BlackLabel said:

The Record's lead story tomorrow - cue a torrent of abuse from Wings Over Scotland types.

Isn't. She the one that gets very passionate about being a Muslim on QT (every time)

[r11co]

BlackLabel said:

Someone on this thread a while back did predict that Tasmina would be the next SNP MP to face charges of financial impropriety - well they may just have been correct.

That was me! Considering Tasmina is a former director of Alex Salmond's tax avoidance company and 'advised' him on his tax affairs it will be interesting to see how far this investigation goes.

Northern Munkee said:

Have another. Mortgage Fraud alleged.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...

That is the culmination of a two-year investigation following her business associate and lawyer being struck-off after he had been party to mortgage fraud. This is the same Michelle Thomson who co-incidentally broke down in tears in Parliament just over a week ago telling a story about an alleged rape in her teens (a rape she has stated she has no intention of reporting to the police, thus conveniently avoiding a charge of perverting the course of justice were the allegations to be proven unfounded when investigated).

This is also the same Michelle Thomson who said her identity had been stolen when her personal details (including verifiable credit card information for a card she had possessed over a year and had never reported as stolen or being used for fraud) were found to be those amongst the data released in the Ashley Madison hack.

The SNP and their 'new kind of politics'.

Edited by r11co on Wednesday 14th December 07:35

[csd19]

simoid said:

• Councils fked

Can they be more fked??

In other (recurrent) news... Pupils are failing in the basics, say teachers

And to balance out the reach arounds given after the train station opened early the other day

AWPR section opening delayed

Government accused of "keeping MSPs in the dark" over AWPR delays

"Meanwhile Scottish Liberal Democrats transport spokesperson Mike Rumbles MSP blasted the Scottish Government following the delay. Mr Rumbles said: “The SNP have been only too keen to point out in the past that this was one of their few infrastructure projects proceeding on time. Ministers were giving assurances until very recently. “Now we find out that road users will be waiting another year for the Balmedie to Tipperty section to open. “They can’t deliver the new Queensferry crossing on time, it’s going to take to 2021 for them to start work on the Laurencekirk junction and now we learn they can’t build the bypass on time either. This is a ridiculous display of incompetence from the Scottish Government."

Sounds like business as usual...

[Edinburger]

Alpacaman said:

ellroy said:

Don't worry they'll be along shortly with a squirrel.

Edinburger said:

That's the Edinburgh Gateway interchange (which we've discussed here several times) open on time and to budget.

I am sure that's great for you if you travel through that part of Edinburgh, but would you care to comment on the state of education in this country and how it seems to have got far worse under the party that is supposed to be "Stronger for Scotland"?

I would also assume that the fact that project is on time and on budget would be far more to do with the contractors and how they priced the job and little or nothing to do with the Scottish Government.

Classic PH, isn't it?

If the project was not on time and was over-budget then - according to you lot - that would absolutely be the fault of the SG / SNP / Ms Sturgeon.

And don't try to deny it.

[Edinburger]

Welshbeef said:

Edinburger said:

I'm not aware of any specification changes?! It's the interface between the train and train lines. Will make a big difference to lots of people.

As for your excitement about the budget... well that's just a bit odd!

It's exciting as this is the first time that there will be different income taxes in the U.K. That is unless the SNP change the tax levels to mirror the rUK. This is tricky for them - last time they decided to make no changes which mirrored rUK but now as the rUK have increased higher tax rate to £45k from Apr2017 and SNP have agreed to let it flow with inflation. Difference next year is a higher tax payer in Scotland will pay £300 a year more in tax, roll forward to 2020 and the annual difference will be £800.. more tax in Scotland than rUK.

And by not making those changes you have Scottish higher rate tax payers paying more/higher taxes than those in rUK.

[Edinburger]

A.J.M said:

So they can open a gateway?

But can't get trains to run properly...
Got an answer to the shocking decline in schools burger since you are on and up for defending stuff.

Scottish trains are unreliable but that's a UK wide issue.

[Edinburger]

technodup said:

Edinburger said:

That's the Edinburgh Gateway interchange (which we've discussed here several times) open on time and to budget.

A glorified train station?

Wow.

Where is Sturgeon hiding? Where was her touted summer campaign for independence? What's her plan for Brexit? Why are the schools st?

Investment in transport is a bad thing?

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Welshbeef said:

simoid said:

I wonder if they'll get rid of the c. 60% marginal tax rates for people earning £43k or whatever it was.

It's 62% and it's £100-122k range

Nah, this one:

"Furthermore the SNP is deeply disingenuous when it asserts that it is simply not passing on a “tax cut” as every Scottish tax payer in 2017-18 will endure an increased tax burden on their earnings between £43,387 and £45,000 per annum due to increases in National Insurance. Indeed the marginal tax rate in Scotland will be increased to 52 per cent in this band. Whilst this might seem a narrow anomaly today by 2020 this 52 per cent marginal rate will cover about £4,000 of income between £46,000 and £50,000. The tax changes in George Osborne’s recent Budget were a package, so on the one hand the threshold for higher rate tax rose but on the other so did the ceiling at which 12 per cent National Insurance continues to be paid. In net terms English tax payers enjoy a 10 per cent fall in their overall marginal tax rate whereas the Scots suffer a 10 per cent increase."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14440951.dis...

Didn't we extensively discuss that one six months or so ago?

[Edinburger]

Cobnapint said:

Hainey said:

I'm already making plans. My wife and I were looking to move in the next year or two but we have decided it will be to the south of the border and not to a rural property on the central belt as we had decided. One thing it has shown us though is how inflated property prices are in Scotland, I can get a better property for less money in a lovely location in Yorkshire or near the lakes than I will pay to live in a nice house 3 miles from a dog rough council scheme here in the central belt.

She can work from anywhere although England would actually suit the majority of her client base better and my factory is getting older and more expensive to run so I've stopped looking at other industrial locations in the area and I'm now looking at ones to the south.

I'm not going to pay more for less for my children and myself as the SNP are going to ask me to do, so I'll take the steps I need to. Watching that witless clown Swinney get his arse handed to him on Sunday morning television on the subject of Education yesterday cemented the fact that this lot simply don't have a clue , and are now at the stage of admitting they are making it up as they go along. They are actually of the opinion now that they are so strong in their power base they can admit they are amateur hour.

If the great unwashed want this faux socialist inward looking hate driven idea of utopia then let them have it. I'll not be here.

I don't want this version of Scotland for mine or my families future.

Fair play to you.

Fair play indeed.

However, I've lived in England as well as overseas and the grass isn't always greener.

Don't be blinded by anti-Scottish rhetoric on this forum. Scotland has a heck of a lot going for it.

[Edinburger]

Welshbeef said:

Scottish budget tomorrow

So what are we expecting to see?

Council tax increases (about time) and higher rate tax payers being shafted further.

[Edinburger]

Silverbullet767 said:

Good on you, if I had the funds behind me I'd be doing the same thing. Scotland under the SNP are f**ked.

Would it be significantly better or worse if we were governed by a different party? Think about it.

[Edinburger]

This'll be the SNP's fault too...

http://www.scottishfinancialnews.com/11310/scotlan...

[Silverbullet767]

Edinburger said:

Silverbullet767 said:

Good on you, if I had the funds behind me I'd be doing the same thing. Scotland under the SNP are f**ked.

Would it be significantly better or worse if we were governed by a different party? Think about it.

Better, all the SNP do is drive a political wedge between Scotland and rUK, businesses like stable conditions, the SNP sabre rattling every chance they get destabilises Scotland and harms our economy.

Close the Scottish parliament and return governance back to Westminster. We don't need another layer of government, less one that damages the entire country through petty hatred.

[Hainey]

Edinburger said:

Cobnapint said:

Hainey said:

I'm already making plans. My wife and I were looking to move in the next year or two but we have decided it will be to the south of the border and not to a rural property on the central belt as we had decided. One thing it has shown us though is how inflated property prices are in Scotland, I can get a better property for less money in a lovely location in Yorkshire or near the lakes than I will pay to live in a nice house 3 miles from a dog rough council scheme here in the central belt.

She can work from anywhere although England would actually suit the majority of her client base better and my factory is getting older and more expensive to run so I've stopped looking at other industrial locations in the area and I'm now looking at ones to the south.

I'm not going to pay more for less for my children and myself as the SNP are going to ask me to do, so I'll take the steps I need to. Watching that witless clown Swinney get his arse handed to him on Sunday morning television on the subject of Education yesterday cemented the fact that this lot simply don't have a clue , and are now at the stage of admitting they are making it up as they go along. They are actually of the opinion now that they are so strong in their power base they can admit they are amateur hour.

If the great unwashed want this faux socialist inward looking hate driven idea of utopia then let them have it. I'll not be here.

I don't want this version of Scotland for mine or my families future.

Fair play to you.

Fair play indeed.

However, I've lived in England as well as overseas and the grass isn't always greener.

Don't be blinded by anti-Scottish rhetoric on this forum. Scotland has a heck of a lot going for it.

For the record I've lived in Spain as well as England. Both for periods measured in years, not months, and I enjoyed both.

I also have the option to live in Dubai (I have a traders licence there for the business) as well as the USA (I can buy my way in) or Canada (more than one option for entry) so there a few options existing.

I like England though, both the countryside and the people.

What I will say though is I don't see any anti Scottish rhetoric on here at all, I see a lot of people who aren't fooled by spin and bile. Long may that continue.

[technodup]

Edinburger said:

Don't be blinded by anti-Scottish rhetoric on this forum.

That hackneyed untruth again?

Any comment on Nicalur presiding over the importation of the 3rd world to her constituency?

https://twitter.com/visitgovanhill?lang=en

ETA: I'm all for shiny new train stations but when you can't stop people dumping their crap all over the streets...

That Govanhill Twitter feed is genuine btw, a proper disgrace. I drive through it most days, I must start taking photos.

Of course when you don't live there, or work there and spend most of your time talking ste in back offices and mouthing off on telly who cares, right?

gobste .

Edited by technodup on Wednesday 14th December 13:04

[Hainey]

Silverbullet767 said:

Edinburger said:

Silverbullet767 said:

Good on you, if I had the funds behind me I'd be doing the same thing. Scotland under the SNP are f**ked.

Would it be significantly better or worse if we were governed by a different party? Think about it.

Better, all the SNP do is drive a political wedge between Scotland and rUK, businesses like stable conditions, the SNP sabre rattling every chance they get destabilises Scotland and harms our economy.

Close the Scottish parliament and return governance back to Westminster. We don't need another layer of government, less one that damages the entire country through petty hatred.

I agree. I'm trying to set up an overseas backed deal at the moment and it would be easier if my business had an English address.

People really don't want t invest in Scotland just now in case it becomes iScotland with all the currency uncertainty, debt share of the union etc that will bring.