Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[s2art]

B210bandit said:

I still don't get why both parties in London want to carry on subsidising Scotland. Mind you, I don't know why the South East bothers subsidising the rest of the country.

Seriously?

[Cobnapint]

technodup said:

B210bandit said:

Dissolving Holyrood would be magical.

It certainly would.

It would be the gift of all gifts.

[Neonblau]

hidetheelephants said:

The clue is in the name; Conservative and Unionist Party.

Which has nothing to do with the United kingdom and relates to a different union and came about with the merger of the Conservative Party and the Liberal Unionist Party - which referenced Irish Home Rule, informally from 1895 till a formal merger in 1912.

[csd19]

"From birth and the earliest years, through school and beyond, education is this government’s number one priority." - Derek Mackay ,Finance Secretary.

Looks like someone's deserving a nice loud "no st Sherlock", shame it's taken 9 years of blunders and pig-headed attitudes to teaching methods to come out with that.

tt.

[rovermorris999]

I've just read on another thread that from next year all air rifles will need a full licence at a cost of £72. I thought it was a joke but no
https://basc.org.uk/basc-scotland/airguns-in-scotl...

Is this an SNP idea and what improvement will it make in people's lives?

[hidetheelephants]

rovermorris999 said:

Is this an SNP idea and what improvement will it make in people's lives?

Yes and none whatsoever; as a bonus it wastes a huge amount of police time on activity that will not make anyone safer. Bawbags will continue to shoot at pets/passersby/each other as they don't give a ste about breaking the law.

[technodup]

rovermorris999 said:

I've just read on another thread that from next year all air rifles will need a full licence at a cost of £72. I thought it was a joke but no
https://basc.org.uk/basc-scotland/airguns-in-scotl...

Is this an SNP idea and what improvement will it make in people's lives?

Sounds precisely like the sort of pointless intervention the Scottish Parliament lives off. Of little consequence to anyone but hey, it gives them something to talk about and shows them to be 'doing' something.

What an utter waste of money that place is.

[s2kjock]

The airgun licencing procedure itself is a fk up.

They clearly knew that the Polis would never be able to process the applications in time for the deadline so have put in rules making it illegal to use your gun and in many cases pay a gun dealer to store it for you if you applied before 31 Dec but don't get your licence.

[Janluke]

s2kjock said:

The airgun licencing procedure itself is a fk up.

They clearly knew that the Polis would never be able to process the applications in time for the deadline so have put in rules making it illegal to use your gun and in many cases pay a gun dealer to store it for you if you applied before 31 Dec but don't get your licence.

The figures are mad

500000 air guns in Scotland, Police Scotland had processed just 418 of the 2642 applications it had received by the end of August.

[Hainey]

Janluke said:

s2kjock said:

The airgun licencing procedure itself is a fk up.

They clearly knew that the Polis would never be able to process the applications in time for the deadline so have put in rules making it illegal to use your gun and in many cases pay a gun dealer to store it for you if you applied before 31 Dec but don't get your licence.

The figures are mad

500000 air guns in Scotland, Police Scotland had processed just 418 of the 2642 applications it had received by the end of August.

It's affecting Class 1 firearms holders as well. The civilians who work for the Police are being very aggressive in how they handle renewals and are actively trying to dissuade people from either keeping their certificate or getting one in the first place.

All part of wee nippy's control of the population agenda.

[s2kjock]

[tinfoilhat] Coupled with increased arming of Polis ........mmm..... have the Scottish Security Services identified risk of an armed uprising in the event of another referendum and Joxit being voted for against the will of the people? [/tinfoilhat]

[Einion Yrth]

s2kjock][tinfoilhat said:

Coupled with increased arming of Polis ........mmm..... have the Scottish Security Services identified risk of an armed uprising in the event of another referendum and Joxit being voted for against the will of the people? [/tinfoilhat]

An armed uprising with air rifles? Best of luck with that.

[hidetheelephants]

I have a good mind to finally get myself organised and acquire a shotgun certificate; if I have to pay for a licence I might as well have a proper gun, particularly as I've done a bit of clay shooting in the past but never done anything about getting my own.

[kowalski655]

Einion Yrth said:

s2kjock][tinfoilhat said:

Coupled with increased arming of Polis ........mmm..... have the Scottish Security Services identified risk of an armed uprising in the event of another referendum and Joxit being voted for against the will of the people? [/tinfoilhat]

An armed uprising with air rifles? Best of luck with that.

The bloody jocks will beat you to death with the wooden end

[Welshbeef]

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/councils-war...



Nothing to see here

[Garvin]

Welshbeef said:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/councils-war...



Nothing to see here

T'was always going to be thus. When you live above your means for so many years then eventually the Piper must be paid!

SNP, the party of austerity . . . . who'd a thunk it!

[Welshbeef]

Garvin said:

T'was always going to be thus. When you live above your means for so many years then eventually the Piper must be paid!

SNP, the party of austerity . . . . who'd a thunk it!

Will the people of Scotland punish them in the polls?

[Garvin]

Welshbeef said:

Garvin said:

T'was always going to be thus. When you live above your means for so many years then eventually the Piper must be paid!

SNP, the party of austerity . . . . who'd a thunk it!

Will the people of Scotland punish them in the polls?

Probably not yet as they are still voting with an emotional victim mentality thinking that the SNP will 'stick it' to Westminster and the English in some way. The fact that even 50 odd SNP MPs at Westminster have bugger all influence and that they, themselves, by voting SNP are making Scots into actual victims still eludes them.

They will get there eventually but not until they are further down the slippery slope towards oblivion. What they (including the SNP) also haven't sussed is that the further down this slope they slide the less likely independence becomes.

SNP, the party that finally put an end to independence . . . . . . . who'd a thunk it!

[Cobnapint]

Garvin said:

Welshbeef said:

Garvin said:

T'was always going to be thus. When you live above your means for so many years then eventually the Piper must be paid!

SNP, the party of austerity . . . . who'd a thunk it!

Will the people of Scotland punish them in the polls?

Probably not yet as they are still voting with an emotional victim mentality thinking that the SNP will 'stick it' to Westminster and the English in some way. The fact that even 50 odd SNP MPs at Westminster have bugger all influence and that they, themselves, by voting SNP are making Scots into actual victims still eludes them.

Agreed. With many (not all) the thinking is this - I'm a Scot, therefore I will vote for something with the word 'Scottish' in it.

I think in their minds 'Scottish Conservatives' and 'Scottish Labour' don't quite cut it. They are seen as fake rebrands of nasty English-only parties.

[r11co]

Garvin said:

They will get there eventually but not until they are further down the slippery slope towards oblivion. What they (including the SNP) also haven't sussed is that the further down this slope they slide the less likely independence becomes.

This. I've said it several times here going back a number of years now - it is the Quebecois experience all over again. The Quebec Sovereignty Movement is now an insignificant side-show in Canadian politics having faced 2 decades of slow decline in support from a peak like that achieved by the SNP. Meanwhile the region has degenerated into a shadow of the former social and economical powerhouse it once was because of ongoing political instability and many years of 'protest politics' from a government putting their fight for independence above competent governance. Even the Bank of Montreal moved their HQ to Toronto to escape the mismanagement of the regional government and the tarnished reputation of the area.

So much of what the SNP do is to repeat the mistakes of other incompetent goverments with exactly the same results, like copying the failed education systems of South Africa and Western Australia. If nothing else it is a re-assuring affirmation that they will never achieve their goal, but it is depressing to endure the lasting damage they are causing in the meantime.

Edited by r11co on Saturday 17th December 12:31