Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKpBmiGuS5mfwd...
Love that they filmed one of these in front of an SNP stand!
Love that they filmed one of these in front of an SNP stand!
csd19 said:
dromong said:
r11co said:
The reality of course is that indyref 2 would be a whole new game with a very different looking playing field.
Aye, with Nic La'Turdyin as the ball.
kwit up and down a field.
NoNeed said:
SNP staffer decides 'Fake news? I'll have a piece of that!' To what end I don't know, other than demonstrating the general lack of quality of SNP employees.Alpacaman said:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=578237...
Who would of thought it possible, an SNP MSP completely out of touch with their constituents!
Looks like she's deleted her account now lol.Who would of thought it possible, an SNP MSP completely out of touch with their constituents!
Edited by Alpacaman on Monday 16th January 09:46
roadtripboy said:
Did anyone see their party political broadcast (more like subliminal mind control) just after Reporting North Korea last night?
Nope, but I just watched it on iPlayer after reading your post.Notwithstanding the illegally parked car shown 20 seconds in, highly ironic that it features two embarrassing failures for SNP policy (merged police force and the Forth Crossing fiasco).
As for the rest of it, how prescient I was with my post above about the SNP behaving as if they are on the brink of victory as that appears to have been the theme of the broadcast.
A nauseating dog-whistle politics exercise if I ever saw one that will convince no pragmatic voters and serves only to re-inforce the shallow attitudes of the head-in-the-clouds "believers" (the term actually used in the film - and who says they are not behaving like a cult?)
Edited by r11co on Friday 20th January 09:42
Willful misrepresentation in action?
This appeared on my Facebook feed, linked by a friend decrying that "Now our MPs are to be denied a vote on the legislation to take us out of the EU against Scotland's will, using EVEL as the excuse":
https://www.facebook.com/albannach.scot/posts/1020...
A quick look at Hansard reveals:
This appeared on my Facebook feed, linked by a friend decrying that "Now our MPs are to be denied a vote on the legislation to take us out of the EU against Scotland's will, using EVEL as the excuse":
https://www.facebook.com/albannach.scot/posts/1020...
Dennis Webster said:
"Gsus. What next? Scottish MP' s won't even get a vote re Brexit saying it is subject to English Votes for English Laws.
How any times can you kick Scotland without retaliation?"
with a link to Paul Monaghan's tweet: "Theresa May has today confirmed that the "Great Repeal Bill" to implement her #HardBrexit will be subject to English Votes for English Laws."How any times can you kick Scotland without retaliation?"
A quick look at Hansard reveals:
Hansard said:
Kirsty Blackman (Aberdeen North) (SNP):
Q2. Will the Prime Minister provide a commitment today that no part of the great repeal Bill will be subject to English votes for English laws? [908226]
The Prime Minister:
The hon. Lady might recognise that the great repeal Bill will deal with a number of complex issues. At its heart will be the repeal of the European Communities Act 1972. As we look at the Bill and at negotiating our way out of the European Union, we will need to look at the whole issue of reserved matters and devolved matters, but there are many aspects—[Interruption.]
Mr Speaker:
Order. Members of the Scottish National party, led by the right hon. Member for Moray (Angus Robertson) on the Front Bench, who is supposed to be a statesmanlike figure, should demonstrate some calm and reserve while they are being answered by the Prime Minister.
The Prime Minister:
The hon. Lady knows full well that if any part of proposed legislation brought before this House applies only to England, it will be subject to English votes for English laws.
So we have gone from verifiable direct quote from the PM, that confirms that only legislation which applies solely to England will be voted in under EVEL, to "our MPs are to be denied a vote".Q2. Will the Prime Minister provide a commitment today that no part of the great repeal Bill will be subject to English votes for English laws? [908226]
The Prime Minister:
The hon. Lady might recognise that the great repeal Bill will deal with a number of complex issues. At its heart will be the repeal of the European Communities Act 1972. As we look at the Bill and at negotiating our way out of the European Union, we will need to look at the whole issue of reserved matters and devolved matters, but there are many aspects—[Interruption.]
Mr Speaker:
Order. Members of the Scottish National party, led by the right hon. Member for Moray (Angus Robertson) on the Front Bench, who is supposed to be a statesmanlike figure, should demonstrate some calm and reserve while they are being answered by the Prime Minister.
The Prime Minister:
The hon. Lady knows full well that if any part of proposed legislation brought before this House applies only to England, it will be subject to English votes for English laws.
blinkythefish said:
So we have gone from verifiable direct quote from the PM, that confirms that only legislation which applies solely to England will be voted in under EVEL, to "our MPs are to be denied a vote".
More dog-whistle st for the 'believers'. Paul Monaghan is a bigot, an anti-Semite, a fraudster, a liar and generally a loathsome person. He's the SNP's Keith Vaz without the connections or the charm, so in other words nothing really. A contemptible nonentity who happened to be in the right place at the right time.Edited by r11co on Friday 20th January 11:30
simoid said:
Sturgeon has fk all to do with Brexit now then - did I hear that right that the judges unanimously dismissed devolved governments from Brexit discussions?
The accent of devolved administrations is not required, so the only genuine say that the SNP will have is when their MPs vote in Westminster.FN2TypeR said:
The accent of devolved administrations is not required, so the only genuine say that the SNP will have is when their MPs vote in Westminster.
Which will mean fk all if Labour stick to their word.I see Salmond's sticking to his 'hard Tory Brexit' mantra. Despite a third of SNP voters wanting it, and probably more Labour.
But good that Nicalur has been put back in her box for a bit.
Oh and just to add the sort of cretins were dealing with here...
Wings has posted the official verdict and then an unattributed but most likely the BBC edit of the same. Black Joan wants the BBC typo to become law. My bold.
WoS said:
Black Joan says:
24 January, 2017 at 10:16 am
Are typos enforceable in law?
Please say they are.
Devolved administrations do not need to be consulted over Brexit
Posted at 9:53
Supreme Court president Lord Neuberger, in giving its ruling, said although the government lost the challenge, the justices unanimously ruled that there was need to consult with the devolved powers in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Jesus wept.24 January, 2017 at 10:16 am
Are typos enforceable in law?
Please say they are.
Devolved administrations do not need to be consulted over Brexit
Posted at 9:53
Supreme Court president Lord Neuberger, in giving its ruling, said although the government lost the challenge, the justices unanimously ruled that there was need to consult with the devolved powers in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Edited by technodup on Tuesday 24th January 11:55
Edited by technodup on Tuesday 24th January 12:02
It hasn't stopped the SNP being the SNP though.
They are saying that because they're not 'legally' required to be involved in the decision about triggering Brexit, this increases the likelihood that 'Scotland's voice won't be heard' and therefore this increases the chances of another indy-ref. Yawn.
And BTW, the democracy loving little darlings are going to table 50 amendments before article 50 is triggered.
You've gotta love 'em.
They are saying that because they're not 'legally' required to be involved in the decision about triggering Brexit, this increases the likelihood that 'Scotland's voice won't be heard' and therefore this increases the chances of another indy-ref. Yawn.
And BTW, the democracy loving little darlings are going to table 50 amendments before article 50 is triggered.
You've gotta love 'em.
Cobnapint said:
It hasn't stopped the SNP being the SNP though.
They are saying that because they're not 'legally' required to be involved in the decision about triggering Brexit, this increases the likelihood that 'Scotland's voice won't be heard' and therefore this increases the chances of another indy-ref. Yawn.
Standard.They are saying that because they're not 'legally' required to be involved in the decision about triggering Brexit, this increases the likelihood that 'Scotland's voice won't be heard' and therefore this increases the chances of another indy-ref. Yawn.
Is there ANY circumstance at ANY time which doesn't increase the chance of another referendum?
Forever calling for a referendum but never actually calling one. Spineless gobs
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