Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[NoddyonNitrous]

Sturgeon whines " Scotland's voice is not being heard or listened to within the UK". SNP has 54 MPs (would have been 56 if they'd put up honourable members) with less than 1.5M votes; UKIP voters have 1 MP after 4M votes.
You do have a say Nicola - that's what your MPs are for!

[Alpacaman]

fluffnik said:

Alpacaman said:

Come on Fluffy, tell us we are all wrong and Scotland will be FREEEE any minute now. Perhaps they all off painting their faces and watching Braveheart.

The UK will end at the same moment as Brexit, following IndyRef2® in early autumn 2018 by when it will be clear just how big a clusterfk it is that we'll be walking away from.

Nothing to do with Braveheart, a lot to do with good civics...

Comedy gold. So you plan on Scotland being outside the EU, out of a union with the rest of the UK, a new untried currency, a government that couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery and a population where one half hates the other half. And you think that isn't a recipe for a country where people really don't want to live?

The truth is there will be no independent Scotland, however much you nationalists declare it's going to happen any day now. Support is dying, enough people are seeing through the lies and seeing what a hateful bunch of bigots the SNP and their core supporters are.

[kowalski655]

NoNeed said:

50 amendments to a document they have not seen nor read yet tells me they just want to stir the st, nothing to do with what their constituents want at all.

I imagine its the 50 things they want,nay demand, regardless of whats actually IN the document
So:
1.No actual Brexit
2.More ties with the EU
3.MORE MONEY!!!!!
.
down to..
.
49.No tax on sales of Irn Bru & deep fried mars bars
50. Equal rights for gingers

[B'stard Child]

kowalski655 said:

50. Equal rights for gingers

Surely that should be first............

[Cobnapint]

fluffnik said:

Cobnapint said:

And BTW, the democracy loving little darlings are going to table 50 amendments before article 50 is triggered.

You've gotta love 'em.

Yup, representing their constituents, whatever next...

Oh, so lots of constituents rang up, emailed or met up with their local SMP did they, and put forward some ideas so they could be raised in Westminster by their elected representatives....? Did. They. fk.


In the same way nobody really gave two sts about the Tories idea of giving power to local councils in England with regard to extending Sunday trading hours - until the SNP dreamt up some wild claim that extended hours in England would impact the earnings of those already doing longer hours in Scotland. How the?.....What the?...Oh never mind. Because SN fking P.

[technodup]

[simoid]

Might need to watch the swear filter circumvention there.

[nightcruiser]

technodup said:

[simoid]

Stickyfinger said:

Order66 said:

Yes, Hosie made to look very desperate that he was effectively disagreeing with the Scottish Governments own figures:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08c00jy/dail...

Good lord, I have not seen such a bigger shafting since the last deep coal mine was commissioned !...

He's got the SNP snigger/sneer when someone asks a valid question

Has he released the figures yet?

fking brilliant by Andrew Neil: "I've got the figures here..." exports to U.K. are £20bn up on 2002. Exports to the EU haven't changed.

[technodup]

I wasn't paying full attention but was he basically claiming a 20% increase of a tiny number was better than a 12% increase of a big number?

[sirtyro]

Will it ever be the case that the SNP lose Scotland and we see a Scottish Conservative or Labour again?

[Patrick Bateman]

sirtyro said:

Will it ever be the case that the SNP lose Scotland and we see a Scottish Conservative or Labour again?

I like to think we've reached peak SNP. Another referendum loss would see that properly put to bed for decades, no excuses. At which point how long will TORIES!!! and blaming Westminster suffice?

[B'stard Child]

sirtyro said:

Will it ever be the case that the SNP lose Scotland and we see a Scottish Conservative or Labour again?

Current state of labour and lib dems - unlikely

Scottish Conservative - much as I like Ruth Davidson I think it would require a serious screw up by the SNP and a completely unelectable Labour party to see a change like that

I'm hopeful that the wee runt and her loons will provide the screw up

[blinkythefish]

technodup said:

I wasn't paying full attention but was he basically claiming a 20% increase of a tiny number was better than a 12% increase of a big number?

Yeah, and then it was demonstrated that he'd made the 20% up.

[Sylvaforever]

[Garvin]

technodup said:

I wasn't paying full attention but was he basically claiming a 20% increase of a tiny number was better than a 12% increase of a big number?

He was, plain and simply, lying. He said he would provide 'his' numbers, I expect that to be another very large porkie!

[mikebradford]

Stuart has posted a response.
I still think his math is poor, ultimately ignoring the percentage increase!
Trade with Europe increased in monetary sense massively less than with the UK
https://twitter.com/StewartHosieSNP/status/8242832...

[Murph7355]

mikebradford said:

Stuart has posted a response.
I still think his math is poor, ultimately ignoring the percentage increase!
Trade with Europe increased in monetary sense massively less than with the UK

AN is a class act.

Was the SNP jockey including some notional oil and gas figures I wonder (wrong as that would be).

[Garvin]

mikebradford said:

Stuart has posted a response.
I still think his math is poor, ultimately ignoring the percentage increase!
Trade with Europe increased in monetary sense at only a 1/4 of the increase with the UK
https://twitter.com/StewartHosieSNP/status/8242832...

I take back my comment that Hosie was lying. I gave him too much credit. He has published the figures that prove him to be nothing more than a complete fool!

[Alpacaman]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/758736/Nico...

Another nail in the coffin of Wee Jimmy Krankies plans, looks like the EU aren't too happy with the though of an independent Catalonia.