Cyclist knocks over child ON THE PAVEMENT...

[TEKNOPUG]

MysteryLemon said:

Ride on the road, get run over and abused by cars. Ride on the pavement, run over children and get abused by parents.

Can't win really.

You'd think they'd take the hint by now

Rightly or wrongly the British transport network isn't designed for cyclists. In the same way that it isn't for horse-drawn carriages.

[MacW]

MysteryLemon said:

Ride on the road, get run over and abused by cars. Ride on the pavement, run over children and get abused by parents.

Can't win really.

Absolutely. Probably not worth bothering then, eh?

Now that this realisation has been made I expect to see a gazillion bikes for sale on eBay no later than tomorrow.

[MysteryLemon]

Timmy40 said:

spot the victim complex.

Victim complex?

I commute to work by bike every now and then. I ride and follow the highway code and couldn't really give a crap what any of the motorists around me are thinking. No victim here.

It frustrates me that motorists want bikes off the roads but pedestrians want cyclists off the pavement. Where are cyclists supposed to go then? In a cycle lane? Oh hold on, they're full of broken glass and Mothers pushing buggies. Oh and the fact that on my whole 11 mile commute, there isn't a single cycle lane.

[hornetrider]

budgie smuggler said:

Is that a shared use (blue) sign in the background of that pic? Rather changes the story if it is.

Edited by budgie smuggler on Thursday 21st May 13:20

No, it isn't.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.821772,-3.033464...

It's a cycle lane sign for the road.

[oyster]

I'm sure there are incidents like this every week, up and down the country. And something should be done about it.

But then, not a lot is done about the dozens of people killed by cars each week, so I don't expect much action.

[Timmy40]

MysteryLemon said:

Timmy40 said:

spot the victim complex.

Victim complex?

I commute to work by bike every now and then. I ride and follow the highway code and couldn't really give a crap what any of the motorists around me are thinking. No victim here.

It frustrates me that motorists want bikes off the roads but pedestrians want cyclists off the pavement. Where are cyclists supposed to go then? In a cycle lane? Oh hold on, they're full of broken glass and Mothers pushing buggies. Oh and the fact that on my whole 11 mile commute, there isn't a single cycle lane.

I cycle a lot, I do not see drivers psychotically abusing and deliberately trying to hurt cyclists. Motorists don't want cyclists off the road in general. Pedestrians have every right to want them off the pavement ( except where there are clear signs and lanes ) because cyclists riding on the pavement are breaking the law, whereas cyclists on a road are not. You can see the difference I hope????

Btw there isn't a cycle lane within 20 miles of me, however there are literally hundreds of cyclists using the roads every day, they seem to manage fine.

Edited by Timmy40 on Thursday 21st May 13:34

[TankRizzo]

TBH I've seen this happen on shared use lanes when kids run out in front of bikes, so it will probably always happen as a rare occurrence, but not stopping to check how the girl is marks him out as a dildo.

[Steve vRS]

TEKNOPUG said:

MysteryLemon said:

Ride on the road, get run over and abused by cars. Ride on the pavement, run over children and get abused by parents.

Can't win really.

You'd think they'd take the hint by now

Rightly or wrongly the British transport network isn't designed for cyclists. In the same way that it isn't for horse-drawn carriages.

Of course it is, everyone just needs to be considerate to one another.

As for the bike rider in the story - an imbecile of the highest order.

Steve

[oyster]

TEKNOPUG said:

Rightly or wrongly the British transport network isn't designed for cyclists. In the same way that it isn't for horse-drawn carriages.

The government, councils and all political parties are working to fix that issue though. The pity is that motorists' freedoms will be curtailed, and taxes increased to help pay for it. Maybe they deserve that, who knows.

[Davel]

A pavement is supposed to be a safe area for folk.

Wonder what the Police will do to him?

How could anyone mow somebody down and then ride / drive off....

[PoleDriver]

Davel said:

A pavement is supposed to be a safe area for folk.

Wonder what the Police will do to him?

How could anyone mow somebody down and then ride / drive off....

THIS!!

The fact that it was a cyclist that did it is NOT the relevant point here!

[TEKNOPUG]

Steve vRS said:

TEKNOPUG said:

MysteryLemon said:

Ride on the road, get run over and abused by cars. Ride on the pavement, run over children and get abused by parents.

Can't win really.

You'd think they'd take the hint by now

Rightly or wrongly the British transport network isn't designed for cyclists. In the same way that it isn't for horse-drawn carriages.

Of course it is, everyone just needs to be considerate to one another.

As for the bike rider in the story - an imbecile of the highest order.

Steve

It's not. It's really not. Cyclists need their own lanes, seperating them from both motorists and pedestrians, for everyone's safety, equally.

[ewenm]

TEKNOPUG said:

It's not. It's really not. Cyclists need their own lanes, seperating them from both motorists and pedestrians, for everyone's safety, equally.

Which is great until you get to junctions. Unless you're going to install flyovers everywhere, different types of roadusers are going to interact. What you need is consideration from ALL road users and then you don't need complete separation.

Edit: The pavement-rider in the article is an imbecile and hopefully gets whatever the law allows thrown at him.

[Hooli]

ewenm said:

TEKNOPUG said:

It's not. It's really not. Cyclists need their own lanes, seperating them from both motorists and pedestrians, for everyone's safety, equally.

Which is great until you get to junctions. Unless you're going to install flyovers everywhere, different types of roadusers are going to interact. What you need is consideration from ALL road users and then you don't need complete separation.

Cyclists DON'T need their own lanes. It's not hard to cycle on the road, even in the middle of London.

[2013BRM]

ewenm said:

TEKNOPUG said:

It's not. It's really not. Cyclists need their own lanes, seperating them from both motorists and pedestrians, for everyone's safety, equally.

Which is great until you get to junctions. Unless you're going to install flyovers everywhere, different types of roadusers are going to interact. What you need is consideration from ALL road users and then you don't need complete separation.

ok if you have the room, as ewenm says, just be courteous and we should all manage without killing each other

[Steve vRS]

TEKNOPUG said:

Steve vRS said:

TEKNOPUG said:

MysteryLemon said:

Ride on the road, get run over and abused by cars. Ride on the pavement, run over children and get abused by parents.

Can't win really.

You'd think they'd take the hint by now

Rightly or wrongly the British transport network isn't designed for cyclists. In the same way that it isn't for horse-drawn carriages.

Of course it is, everyone just needs to be considerate to one another.

As for the bike rider in the story - an imbecile of the highest order.

Steve

It's not. It's really not. Cyclists need their own lanes, seperating them from both motorists and pedestrians, for everyone's safety, equally.

It is, it really is. Everyone just has to accept that all road users have the same rights and responsibilities on the roads as others. When riding on the roads I behave like traffic and on the whole, am treated like traffic.

But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.

Steve

[ewenm]

Hooli said:

Cyclists DON'T need their own lanes. It's not hard to cycle on the road, even in the middle of London.

I completely agree. I felt safer cycling with the traffic across central London than I did sticking to the cycle-lanes. The Elephant and Castle roundabouts were much safer ridden as you'd drive them for example.

[Grumfutock]

funkyrobot said:

Grumfutock said:

And this is why car drivers should be issued with cattle prods!

To prod each other when they act stupidly?

Nope, to electricute the morons that under take, weave in and out, ignore traffic lights, ignore junctions, ignore crossing, cycling on the pavement, ignore cycle lanes, ignore the rules of the highway and yet gob off when they get clipped by a car but refuse to stop or even acknowledge the fact when they hit mine. Utter plebs.

In my experience all of the above is an almost daily occurance and I am sick of them bleating on about how unfair it is and how the world is against them. I wont call it stupidity as i refuse to accept the fact that so many can survive being that dim. I see it as a deliberate act and they should be punished for it.

[Jasandjules]

oyster said:

The government, councils and all political parties are working to f**k it up for the motorists, the ones who pay all the road tax, insurance premium and fuel tax. The pity is that motorists' freedoms will be curtailed, and taxes increased to help pay for it.

Fixed that for you. They are also looking to f**k it up around here for buses. Not only do they get their own lanes but they are changing "priorities" for bus users FFS.

[PoleDriver]

Slightly O/T (but it is MY thread!)
Is it compulsory for cyclists to use cycle lanes where they are provided?