Cyclist knocks over child ON THE PAVEMENT...

Cyclist knocks over child ON THE PAVEMENT...

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Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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She may will have been just out of the gates, but it was a split second thing.

Now, don't get me wrong, the cyclist was totally in the wrong but in m mind , he didn't callously mow down a child and then cycle off.

The poor girl came out of nowhere at speed, he was speeding (on the pavement ) and struck her,

He is totally in the wrong and should be royally bked and have the appropriate fines, but I don't think that he needs to be vilified and lose his job or company for being an idiot.

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Issi said:
He is totally in the wrong and should be royally bked and have the appropriate fines, but I don't think that he needs to be vilified and lose his job or company for being an idiot.
Bloody cyclists, not even mastered the art of boasting about running someone over on twitter yet so we can be unanimous in calling for them to loose their job!

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Has the cyclist had "death threats" yet?!

matchmaker

8,490 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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And another...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...

Beeb said:
A jogger has been seriously injured in a collision with a bicycle in Livingston.

The 49-year-old man sustained a head injury following the incident at about 09:00 on the Loan Footpath, at its junction with Fergus Avenue.

He was taken to the Western General where his condition is now considered to be serious.

Police Scotland are trying to trace the cyclist, who did not swap details with the jogger at the time.
No doubt the lycra-clad brigade will blame the jogger rolleyes

muffinmenace

1,033 posts

188 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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matchmaker said:
No doubt the lycra-clad brigade will blame the jogger rolleyes
No doubt those with an axe to grind will jump to conclusions...

Smollet

10,568 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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muffinmenace said:
No doubt those with an axe to grind will jump to conclusions...
Not sure what conclusions you can draw apart from he was cycling too fast on a pavement and the child was unsupervised and ran straight into him. The only innocent party is the kid.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Is it worth reading this thread, or is it as predictable as I suspect?

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Issi said:
She may will have been just out of the gates, but it was a split second thing.

Now, don't get me wrong, the cyclist was totally in the wrong but in m mind , he didn't callously mow down a child and then cycle off.

The poor girl came out of nowhere at speed, he was speeding (on the pavement ) and struck her,

He is totally in the wrong and should be royally bked and have the appropriate fines, but I don't think that he needs to be vilified and lose his job or company for being an idiot.
He knocked her down, swore at the parents, then rode off.

You can hardly say the toddlers speed was a factor.if it was a car or motorbike doing the same how much blame would you put on the toddler?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Issi said:
Now, don't get me wrong, the cyclist was totally in the wrong but in m mind , he didn't callously mow down a child and then cycle off.
Correct. He mowed down the child and then callously cycled off.

The mowing down was not callous, simply an act of the highest stupidity and recklessness. Only the cycling away from an injured child who had been through his chain was callous.

Cyclists - or as I call them, bds - are the most arrogant of road user. Worse even than horse women.

PoleDriver

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28,637 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Smollet

10,568 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Andy Zarse said:
Cyclists - or as I call them, bds - are the most arrogant of road user. Worse even than horse women.
Not sure about that. A woman riding a horse on a bike is without doubt the worst of the worst. biggrin

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Issi said:
If you watch the video clip, it appears that the little girl actually ran into the side of the bike. I'm not trying to defend the cyclist as he definitely shouldn't have been riding at that speed on a pavement, but it's clear that the little girl wasn't standing stock still on the pavement and the cyclist just ran into her.
I'm obviously misunderstanding the purposes of pavements... surely they are for walking/jogging on not for standing stock still on (you'd never get anywhere)


Issi said:
The poor girl came out of nowhere at speed, he was speeding (on the pavement ) and struck her,
a 3 y/o came out of nowhere at speed??? Seriously dude? She ain't fecking Usain Bolt, she's a young kid.

I do acknowledge that you've (correctly) assigned the blame in this case to the cyclist. My problem with this thread is that there is only one person responsible for the incident here and that is the 100% cyclist. All the other usual arguments (drivers are tts, cyclists are wkers) have no place here - it's irrelevant.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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PoleDriver said:
indeed

Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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irocfan said:
Issi said:
If you watch the video clip, it appears that the little girl actually ran into the side of the bike. I'm not trying to defend the cyclist as he definitely shouldn't have been riding at that speed on a pavement, but it's clear that the little girl wasn't standing stock still on the pavement and the cyclist just ran into her.
I'm obviously misunderstanding the purposes of pavements... surely they are for walking/jogging on not for standing stock still on (you'd never get anywhere)


Issi said:
The poor girl came out of nowhere at speed, he was speeding (on the pavement ) and struck her,
a 3 y/o came out of nowhere at speed??? Seriously dude? She ain't fecking Usain Bolt, she's a young kid.

I do acknowledge that you've (correctly) assigned the blame in this case to the cyclist. My problem with this thread is that there is only one person responsible for the incident here and that is the 100% cyclist. All the other usual arguments (drivers are tts, cyclists are wkers) have no place here - it's irrelevant.
If you watch the video, you can see the poor girl runniing out of the gate at the speed of a running three year old, the cyclist, who, as I've mentioned previously should not have been on the pavement at all, had no chance to avoid hitting her. The cyclist was 100% wrong in what he caused, but in my opinion, he could not have avoided the accident, apart from not being on the pavement in the first place.


NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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What a strange world we live in where people are so twisted that they don't think the cyclist was 100% responsible.

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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it always seems to degenerate like this...

a particular cyclist is a without a car in the equation - cyclists then rally round to point fingers at various drivers being s or point out why said cyclist isn't actually all bad (eg 3y/o hurls herself lemming like at a cyclist) because a cyclist has been insulted.

a particular driver is a without a cyclist in the equation - other drivers rally round and agree that yes said driver was, indeed, a (only likely without the depth or warmth) with no mention made of other road users being just as bad or worse.

strange

Hol

8,412 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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irocfan said:
it always seems to degenerate like this...

a particular cyclist is a without a car in the equation - cyclists then rally round to point fingers at various drivers being s or point out why said cyclist isn't actually all bad (eg 3y/o hurls herself lemming like at a cyclist) because a cyclist has been insulted.

a particular driver is a without a cyclist in the equation - other drivers rally round and agree that yes said driver was, indeed, a (only likely without the depth or warmth) with no mention made of other road users being just as bad or worse.

strange
I couldn't be arsed to read another predictable thread, but.....

Has anyone blamed the parent yet, for allowing his child to be in the way of the cyclist?




Smollet

10,568 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Hol said:
I couldn't be arsed to read another predictable thread, but.....

Has anyone blamed the parent yet, for allowing his child to be in the way of the cyclist?
I'm pretty certain that angle has been covered

Hol

8,412 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Thanks, thumbup

That saved me wasting my time, reading the whole thing.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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funkyrobot said:
All that seems to show is if you hit the vehicle 'just right' you can get it on the roof no mither biglaughbiglaugh