Cyclist knocks over child ON THE PAVEMENT...
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The thread isn't about where cyclists should or shouldn't ride, it's about what this idiot did to a little girl and then rode off.
I see folk riding on the pavement often, rightly or wrongly, but they don't all ride like idiots.
There are certain roads close to my home where riding on the roads can be very dangerous in places, so cyclists often mount the kerb.
They don't ride like idiots though.
I see folk riding on the pavement often, rightly or wrongly, but they don't all ride like idiots.
There are certain roads close to my home where riding on the roads can be very dangerous in places, so cyclists often mount the kerb.
They don't ride like idiots though.
Jasandjules said:
oyster said:
The government, councils and all political parties are working to f**k it up for the motorists, the ones who pay all the road tax, insurance premium and fuel tax. The pity is that motorists' freedoms will be curtailed, and taxes increased to help pay for it.
Fixed that for you. They are also looking to f**k it up around here for buses. Not only do they get their own lanes but they are changing "priorities" for bus users FFS.Jasandjules said:
oyster didn't say said:
The government, councils and all political parties are working to f**k it up for the motorists, the ones who pay all the road tax, insurance premium and fuel tax. The pity is that motorists' freedoms will be curtailed, and taxes increased to help pay for it.
Fixed that for you. They are also looking to f**k it up around here for buses. Not only do they get their own lanes but they are changing "priorities" for bus users FFS.The only taxation difference if I cycle rather than drive is surely the fuel duty? I'm still paying my car insurance, VED, income tax, VAT, etc whichever vehicle I'm using
Davel said:
The thread isn't about where cyclists should or shouldn't ride, it's about what this idiot did to a little girl and then rode off.
I see folk riding on the pavement often, rightly or wrongly, but they don't all ride like idiots.
There are certain roads close to my home where riding on the roads can be very dangerous in places, so cyclists often mount the kerb.
They don't ride like idiots though.
From the Highway code:-I see folk riding on the pavement often, rightly or wrongly, but they don't all ride like idiots.
There are certain roads close to my home where riding on the roads can be very dangerous in places, so cyclists often mount the kerb.
They don't ride like idiots though.
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129
RizzoTheRat said:
Jasandjules said:
oyster didn't say said:
The government, councils and all political parties are working to f**k it up for the motorists, the ones who pay all the road tax, insurance premium and fuel tax. The pity is that motorists' freedoms will be curtailed, and taxes increased to help pay for it.
Fixed that for you. They are also looking to f**k it up around here for buses. Not only do they get their own lanes but they are changing "priorities" for bus users FFS.The only taxation difference if I cycle rather than drive is surely the fuel duty? I'm still paying my car insurance, VED, income tax, VAT, etc whichever vehicle I'm using
hornetrider said:
Actually I didn't read up to the end of the article:
A man in his 20s has since contacted police in connection with the incident and is due to be spoken to by officers tomorrow.
He will need the police for his own protection as soon as Mumsnet have identified him.A man in his 20s has since contacted police in connection with the incident and is due to be spoken to by officers tomorrow.
What a scumbag. The riding along the pavement at that speed is one thing but just continuing on after doing that to the child? No excuse.
Jasandjules said:
oyster said:
The government, councils and all political parties are working to f**k it up for the motorists, the ones who pay all the road tax, insurance premium and fuel tax. The pity is that motorists' freedoms will be curtailed, and taxes increased to help pay for it.
Fixed that for you. They are also looking to f**k it up around here for buses. Not only do they get their own lanes but they are changing "priorities" for bus users FFS.
Maybe they realise it isn't terribly efficient or sensible for a bunch of people to sit in a ton of metal on their own, surrounded by thousands of other people doing the same thing twice a day, for a distance that they could cycle in less than an hour if they weren't so lazy?
PoleDriver said:
Black can man said:
PoleDriver said:
Slightly O/T (but it is MY thread!)
Is it compulsory for cyclists to use cycle lanes where they are provided?
You serious ?Is it compulsory for cyclists to use cycle lanes where they are provided?
I find that most cycle paths are great for slower bikes. Shared use paths are no better than pavements and the comedy lanes painted in the gutters are the worst of the lot!
And back to the point of the thread (again) the chap on the bike who hit the kid was an idiot, and he would probably be an idiot in a car as well!
Steve
Steve vRS said:
It is, it really is. Everyone just has to accept that all road users have the same rights and responsibilities on the roads as others. When riding on the roads I behave like traffic and on the whole, am treated like traffic.
But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
That's fine on the assumption that all road users are equal. But they're not.But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
hornetrider said:
budgie smuggler said:
Is that a shared use (blue) sign in the background of that pic? Rather changes the story if it is.
No, it isn't.Edited by budgie smuggler on Thursday 21st May 13:20
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.821772,-3.033464...
It's a cycle lane sign for the road.
simoid said:
Interesting that they thought the child could've been seriously injured (with broken bones etc) so the Dad decided it was best to "sweep her" up off the pavement...!
Not sure you'd think to leave them on the ground in that situation. Pretty sure I'd scoop mine up and do the same as the dad.
simoid said:
Interesting that they thought the child could've been seriously injured (with broken bones etc) so the Dad decided it was best to "sweep her" up off the pavement...!
Well WTF would you have done? Left your kid bleeding ad crying for you, whilst you assessed her? Unless your a Vulcan I think most people would have reacted the way that Dad did. I guess that it can be the natural instinct to pick your child up and hug him/her to protect them and reassure them.
I doubt that he had thought that he might make things worse by doing so.
Oh and I realise that riding on the pavement is illegal. I don't do it but there are places where I can understand why a cyclist would choose to do so.
I don't personally have a problem with it provided that they are doing it slowly and considerately - preferably when the pavement is empty or quiet.
I doubt that he had thought that he might make things worse by doing so.
Oh and I realise that riding on the pavement is illegal. I don't do it but there are places where I can understand why a cyclist would choose to do so.
I don't personally have a problem with it provided that they are doing it slowly and considerately - preferably when the pavement is empty or quiet.
TEKNOPUG said:
Steve vRS said:
It is, it really is. Everyone just has to accept that all road users have the same rights and responsibilities on the roads as others. When riding on the roads I behave like traffic and on the whole, am treated like traffic.
But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
That's fine on the assumption that all road users are equal. But they're not.But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
Davel said:
Oh and I realise that riding on the pavement is illegal. I don't do it but there are places where I can understand why a cyclist would choose to do so.
I don't personally have a problem with it provided that they are doing it slowly and considerately - preferably when the pavement is empty or quiet.
In the same way as I have no trouble with bank robbers as long as they don't steal my money or rob my bank. I don't personally have a problem with it provided that they are doing it slowly and considerately - preferably when the pavement is empty or quiet.
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