Cyclist knocks over child ON THE PAVEMENT...
Discussion
Grumfutock said:
Davel said:
Oh and I realise that riding on the pavement is illegal. I don't do it but there are places where I can understand why a cyclist would choose to do so.
I don't personally have a problem with it provided that they are doing it slowly and considerately - preferably when the pavement is empty or quiet.
In the same way as I have no trouble with bank robbers as long as they don't steal my money or rob my bank. I don't personally have a problem with it provided that they are doing it slowly and considerately - preferably when the pavement is empty or quiet.
Timmy40 said:
simoid said:
Interesting that they thought the child could've been seriously injured (with broken bones etc) so the Dad decided it was best to "sweep her" up off the pavement...!
Well WTF would you have done? Left your kid bleeding ad crying for you, whilst you assessed her? Unless your a Vulcan I think most people would have reacted the way that Dad did. I think it might be more a case of journalistic or parental hyperbole, than inappropriate actions however.
Davel said:
I guess that it can be the natural instinct to pick your child up and hug him/her to protect them and reassure them.
I doubt that he had thought that he might make things worse by doing so.
Yes, precisely. It's not always a split second in which you sit back and have a think, you want to protect your child from further harm and comfort them immediately. The instinct is to pick up and hold the child close, then examine the injuries. Medically the wrong thing to do no doubt. But none-the-less the way it is. I doubt that he had thought that he might make things worse by doing so.
Davel said:
Grumfutock said:
In the same way as I have no trouble with bank robbers as long as they don't steal my money or rob my bank.
Sorry but I just don't get your comparison in this respect.Every year an average of 34 pedestrians on pavements are killed by motorists. Countless more are injured, often significantly more than this child was. Yes, this cyclist was an idiot but (as a law-abiding pedestrian) cyclists in general should be a long way down your list of worries.
Mr Will said:
Every year an average of 34 pedestrians on pavements are killed by motorists. Countless more are injured, often significantly more than this child was. Yes, this cyclist was an idiot but (as a law-abiding pedestrian) cyclists in general should be a long way down your list of worries.
Source please.Grumfutock said:
Davel said:
Grumfutock said:
In the same way as I have no trouble with bank robbers as long as they don't steal my money or rob my bank.
Sorry but I just don't get your comparison in this respect.Mr Will said:
Every year an average of 34 pedestrians on pavements are killed by motorists. Countless more are injured, often significantly more than this child was. Yes, this cyclist was an idiot but (as a law-abiding pedestrian) cyclists in general should be a long way down your list of worries.
Were those motorists deliberately driving down the pavement under control, or had they lost control of their vehicle for whatever reason and unintentionally mounted the pavement?Grumfutock said:
Mr Will said:
Every year an average of 34 pedestrians on pavements are killed by motorists. Countless more are injured, often significantly more than this child was. Yes, this cyclist was an idiot but (as a law-abiding pedestrian) cyclists in general should be a long way down your list of worries.
Source please.Timmy40 said:
Mr Will said:
Every year an average of 34 pedestrians on pavements are killed by motorists. Countless more are injured, often significantly more than this child was. Yes, this cyclist was an idiot but (as a law-abiding pedestrian) cyclists in general should be a long way down your list of worries.
Were those motorists deliberately driving down the pavement under control, or had they lost control of their vehicle for whatever reason and unintentionally mounted the pavement?Mr Will said:
Timmy40 said:
Mr Will said:
Every year an average of 34 pedestrians on pavements are killed by motorists. Countless more are injured, often significantly more than this child was. Yes, this cyclist was an idiot but (as a law-abiding pedestrian) cyclists in general should be a long way down your list of worries.
Were those motorists deliberately driving down the pavement under control, or had they lost control of their vehicle for whatever reason and unintentionally mounted the pavement?Grumfutock said:
Mr Will said:
Every year an average of 34 pedestrians on pavements are killed by motorists. Countless more are injured, often significantly more than this child was. Yes, this cyclist was an idiot but (as a law-abiding pedestrian) cyclists in general should be a long way down your list of worries.
Source please.http://www.ctc.org.uk/campaigning/views-and-briefi...
ONS only record pedestrian deaths not whether they were, but reckon 2-3 killed by cyclists every year, and an average of 200 killed by motor vehicles
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/uk_accident...
(yes I'm bored)
Steve vRS said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Steve vRS said:
It is, it really is. Everyone just has to accept that all road users have the same rights and responsibilities on the roads as others. When riding on the roads I behave like traffic and on the whole, am treated like traffic.
But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
That's fine on the assumption that all road users are equal. But they're not.But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
Steve vRS said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Steve vRS said:
It is, it really is. Everyone just has to accept that all road users have the same rights and responsibilities on the roads as others. When riding on the roads I behave like traffic and on the whole, am treated like traffic.
But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
That's fine on the assumption that all road users are equal. But they're not.But adults riding on the pavements need to grow up and get on the roads.
Steve
wolves_wanderer said:
Maybe they realise it isn't terribly efficient or sensible for a bunch of people to sit in a ton of metal on their own, surrounded by thousands of other people doing the same thing twice a day, for a distance that they could cycle in less than an hour if they weren't so lazy?
Jasandjules said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Maybe they realise it isn't terribly efficient or sensible for a bunch of people to sit in a ton of metal on their own, surrounded by thousands of other people doing the same thing twice a day, for a distance that they could cycle in less than an hour if they weren't so lazy?
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