When are landrover going to admit they have a big problem?

When are landrover going to admit they have a big problem?

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tescorank

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1,985 posts

230 months

unrepentant

21,212 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Blame the EU. Their stupid rules force the manufacturers to make their diagnostics available to 3rd parties. This is not a LR problem, many manufacturers have the same issue. It's just that Range Rovers are very much in demand so more attractive to thieves.

In the US where we don't have to deal with the EU and its ridiculous rules we don't have the issue and our cars are much easier to ship overseas given that they are LHD.

Instead of blaming the manufacturers the victims should be writing to their MP's demanding that the PM insist that the EU listen to the SMMT and change the law pronto.

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

170 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Quite pert for no bra.

DMN

2,983 posts

138 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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BuzzBravado said:
Quite pert for no bra.
That comment is the only reason I clicked on that link.

BongoHunter

27 posts

119 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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DMN said:
That comment is the only reason I clicked on that link.
Same here!

marshalla

15,902 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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unrepentant said:
In the US where we don't have to deal with the EU and its ridiculous rules we don't have the issue and our cars are much easier to ship overseas given that they are LHD.
You just have to worry about who actually owns the car : http://consumerist.com/2015/05/20/gm-that-car-you-... and whether anyone other than the manufacturer can modify or repair it.


audidoody

8,595 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Rather tenuous. I'm pretty sure I own my computer, SIM-free smartphone, and TV set which also requires coded firmware.

Pesty

42,655 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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BuzzBravado said:
Quite pert for no bra.
Quite normal for fake ones.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

169 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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audidoody said:
Rather tenuous. I'm pretty sure I own my computer, SIM-free smartphone, and TV set which also requires coded firmware.
It's a pretty serious issue actually. They're close to getting their way too.

trashbat

6,005 posts

152 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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You must have to either be really stupid, or really, really want to hate the EU to blame them for someone's car being nicked.

Show me the piece of EU legislation that said the vehicle manufacturer must implement a thoroughly crap security system that let someone break into a car without the alarm going off, access the diagnostics of the still-alarmed car, immediately associate a blank key and then drive away.

That's not borne of compliance with vehicle standards, that's just lazy rubbish.

But whatever. Bendy bananas.

iambeowulf

712 posts

171 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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He punched through the drivers window. On his own car.

Hmm.

jesta1865

3,448 posts

208 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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CAPP0 said:
Pesty said:
BuzzBravado said:
Quite pert for no bra.
Quite normal for fake ones.
Exactly.
i've looked several times now and i can't get past the minging face! redface

CAPP0

19,530 posts

202 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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A Sussex Police spokesman said:
At this stage we do not know how the cars are being stolen.
Maybe they should start reading PH, or any of multiple other websites?

(and yes, those are fake plastic ones)

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

170 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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jesta1865 said:
CAPP0 said:
Pesty said:
BuzzBravado said:
Quite pert for no bra.
Quite normal for fake ones.
Exactly.
i've looked several times now and i can't get past the minging face! redface
But you have looked several times! I agree its no oil painting, but i'd still like a shot.

Smollet

10,465 posts

189 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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BongoHunter said:
DMN said:
That comment is the only reason I clicked on that link.
Same here!
Ditto.

tangerine_sedge

4,699 posts

217 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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trashbat said:
You must have to either be really stupid, or really, really want to hate the EU to blame them for someone's car being nicked.

Show me the piece of EU legislation that said the vehicle manufacturer must implement a thoroughly crap security system that let someone break into a car without the alarm going off, access the diagnostics of the still-alarmed car, immediately associate a blank key and then drive away.

That's not borne of compliance with vehicle standards, that's just lazy rubbish.

But whatever. Bendy bananas.
No, this is N,P&E, therefore it's the fault of either :

The EU
The BBC
Common Purpose.

Probably all three.

Incidentally, deffo fake to go with the wannabee gangster RR.

Sheepshanks

32,521 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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tangerine_sedge said:
Incidentally, deffo fake to go with the wannabee gangster RR.
I guess that's the problem with this issue - most people don't care as it's generally the wrong sort of people of drive RRs.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Friday 22 May 16:06

trashbat

6,005 posts

152 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Me, I blame Ol' Birty Dastard and the rest of the Wu-Tang Society of Automotive Engineers.

ChemicalChaos

10,360 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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thing is, if they locked down the ECUs so only a dealer could read them and service the car, how hard would everyone be moaning then? very, I'd guess

Sheepshanks

32,521 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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ChemicalChaos said:
thing is, if they locked down the ECUs so only a dealer could read them and service the car, how hard would everyone be moaning then? very, I'd guess
They pretty well are (supposed to be) locked down already - you can only do basic functions / code reading without the full manufacturer diagnostic kit, or a rip-off of it (which the manufacturers are trying to stop).