IS - We'll buy nuclear weapon within 12 months.

[Gandahar]

llewop said:

Gecko1978 said:

My point an yours to I think is the fear factor the word radiation generates.

True - something that myself and many colleagues are fighting an uphill battle about; trying to improve understanding about radiation, it's effects and how to protect people from it in all it's forms. Hence RDDs (dirty bombs) are weapons of disruption.

Problem is the Japanese are not doing a very good job with containing even civil radiation at Fukushima and neither did the Ukranians last century, so that is not something encouraging for the general public. No wonder you and your colleagues are fighting an uphill battle. Too much nuclear bungling over the last 80 years one way or another, so when it get into extremists hands it no longer becomes a NIMBY worry, it is a Not In My Shopping Mall, or School or tourist attraction worry.

Dirty bombs are actually a weapon of death, perhaps horribly so, if you are the unlucky sod. Disruption is making it sound less bad than it is, like those Civil defence films from the 60's....

Hope John Cantlie gets back ok, he's cleverly managed to keep his head so far. Very tricky.

[AreOut]

they have a lot more chance to instill fear with biological weapons and even sneak out unnoticed

s2art said:

TSR2 might have been able to do it.

retired long time ago, american B1 could probably do it now without getting harmed on the way

[Timmy40]

Ayahuasca said:

ISIS a local terror group for local people

I'm no marketing genius, but there's a ring to that, you should email it to them to use as a slogan.

[Zod]

Mojocvh said:

jimreed said:

My background is in the R.A.F. and a subsequent civilian career in engineering, I also have a physics degree.

I have to say that there is simply no real info on the central physics package of a nuclear weapon available out side of deeply secret governmental research.

In service yellow sun/green grass/red snow, ( the second two referring to the 'innards'), were the earliest weapons we studied, yet absolutely nothing was known by us, not even a hint of the detailed inner workings.
Its possible to conjecture about green grass because of the 'balls', but nothing firm is known.

drip drip little steel balls?





the catherine wheel at the left is the distribution unit that triggers the firing pattern of the explosives in a set order to ensure criticality.....

Ref: http://www.nuclear-weapons.info/vw.htm#Violet%20Cl...

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 27th May 19:34

Thanks for that. I'll just head down to the shed and put one together by teatime.

[Einion Yrth]

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

jimreed said:

My background is in the R.A.F. and a subsequent civilian career in engineering, I also have a physics degree.

I have to say that there is simply no real info on the central physics package of a nuclear weapon available out side of deeply secret governmental research.

In service yellow sun/green grass/red snow, ( the second two referring to the 'innards'), were the earliest weapons we studied, yet absolutely nothing was known by us, not even a hint of the detailed inner workings.
Its possible to conjecture about green grass because of the 'balls', but nothing firm is known.

drip drip little steel balls?





the catherine wheel at the left is the distribution unit that triggers the firing pattern of the explosives in a set order to ensure criticality.....

Ref: http://www.nuclear-weapons.info/vw.htm#Violet%20Cl...

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 27th May 19:34

Thanks for that. I'll just head down to the shed and put one together by teatime.

You have 10 Kilos of Plutonium kicking around in your shed?

[Mojocvh]

Einion Yrth said:

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

jimreed said:

My background is in the R.A.F. and a subsequent civilian career in engineering, I also have a physics degree.

I have to say that there is simply no real info on the central physics package of a nuclear weapon available out side of deeply secret governmental research.

In service yellow sun/green grass/red snow, ( the second two referring to the 'innards'), were the earliest weapons we studied, yet absolutely nothing was known by us, not even a hint of the detailed inner workings.
Its possible to conjecture about green grass because of the 'balls', but nothing firm is known.

drip drip little steel balls?





the catherine wheel at the left is the distribution unit that triggers the firing pattern of the explosives in a set order to ensure criticality.....

Ref: http://www.nuclear-weapons.info/vw.htm#Violet%20Cl...

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 27th May 19:34

Thanks for that. I'll just head down to the shed and put one together by teatime.

You have 10 Kilos of Plutonium kicking around in your shed?

needs 1250lb HE for the squeeze as well...

[Zod]

Mojocvh said:

Einion Yrth said:

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

jimreed said:

My background is in the R.A.F. and a subsequent civilian career in engineering, I also have a physics degree.

I have to say that there is simply no real info on the central physics package of a nuclear weapon available out side of deeply secret governmental research.

In service yellow sun/green grass/red snow, ( the second two referring to the 'innards'), were the earliest weapons we studied, yet absolutely nothing was known by us, not even a hint of the detailed inner workings.
Its possible to conjecture about green grass because of the 'balls', but nothing firm is known.

drip drip little steel balls?





the catherine wheel at the left is the distribution unit that triggers the firing pattern of the explosives in a set order to ensure criticality.....

Ref: http://www.nuclear-weapons.info/vw.htm#Violet%20Cl...

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 27th May 19:34

Thanks for that. I'll just head down to the shed and put one together by teatime.

You have 10 Kilos of Plutonium kicking around in your shed?

needs 1250lb HE for the squeeze as well...

how hard can it be to get the ingredients?

[Transmitter Man]

Mojocvh said:

drip drip little steel balls?





the catherine wheel at the left is the distribution unit that triggers the firing pattern of the explosives in a set order to ensure criticality.....

Ref: http://www.nuclear-weapons.info/vw.htm#Violet%20Cl...

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 27th May 19:34

Looks like a Salisbury rear axel with inboard discs.

Glad I swapped mine for outboard.

Phil

[Transmitter Man]

IS now on the way to Syria's largest military base: http://icmu.nyc.gr/%20Assad-pulls-air-force-out-of...

Phil

[AJL308]

s2art said:

And yet the UK built one on a shoestring a few years later. It can be done.

No, it cost a vast amount of money - we just have a knack of making things looks cheap and like they were knocked-up in a garden shed.

I recall seeing a documentary some years ago about the British Atom Bomb program; it made the point that the first batch of weapons-grade material which left the facility which produced it weighed about 100 pounds and was "The single most expensive product ever manufactured in British history up to that time", or words to that effect. It cost billions to produce.

ajl.

[s2art]

AJL308 said:

s2art said:

And yet the UK built one on a shoestring a few years later. It can be done.

No, it cost a vast amount of money - we just have a knack of making things looks cheap and like they were knocked-up in a garden shed.

I recall seeing a documentary some years ago about the British Atom Bomb program; it made the point that the first batch of weapons-grade material which left the facility which produced it weighed about 100 pounds and was "The single most expensive product ever manufactured in British history up to that time", or words to that effect. It cost billions to produce.

ajl.

It cost a fraction of the Manhattan projects tab. Everything is relative.

From a google search;

'Dr Penney was knighted. Churchill reported to the House of Commons on October 23rd that everything had gone according to plan and there had been no casualties. He congratulated the Labour Party on its part in a historic episode and added that ‘as an old parliamentarian I was rather astonished that something well over £100 million could be disbursed without Parliament being made aware of it.’ - See more at: http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/firs...

So North of £100 million. Not billions. Compare that to the Manhatten project.

[AreOut]

you should take into account relations between India and Pakistan...

[bristolracer]

On the other hand IS could just get smart and start hitting economic targets, a bit like the IRA did in the 90s with the Baltic exchange and Bishopsgate bombings.
If you want a government to take notice then hit them where it hurts.- In the wallet

[Countdown]

drivetrain said:

Scaremongering from the Indian govt?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3105518/IS...

Or maybe has the ring of truth to it...

Quite possibly.

The Pakistani military has a fundamentalist "strain" within it.
Pakistan and Saudi are very close politically.
It is reputed that the Pakistani nukes were financed by the Saudis and there is an implied agreement that the Pakistanis will provide them (KSA) with nukes if they ask for them.
ISIS are the bd child of Saudi & Qatar. Despite protestations to the contrary they exist and thrive solely because of Saudi and Qatar.

Join the dots.....

[dudleybloke]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-eas...