IS - We'll buy nuclear weapon within 12 months.
Discussion
drivetrain said:
This scenario may not be as far-fetched as it seems at first glance.
Perhaps not a full-blown nuke but certainly a 'dirty bomb' with a large amount of conventional explosive combined with radioactive material is a distinct possibility IMO, these nutters would love to set off a device like that in London or New York.
How many shipping containers are delivered to large ports daily? Even a suicide mission with a dirty suitcase bomb is another possible method.
Food for thought.
Every container to enter a major Port by road, rail or Sea is scanned for radiation by Cyclamen...Perhaps not a full-blown nuke but certainly a 'dirty bomb' with a large amount of conventional explosive combined with radioactive material is a distinct possibility IMO, these nutters would love to set off a device like that in London or New York.
How many shipping containers are delivered to large ports daily? Even a suicide mission with a dirty suitcase bomb is another possible method.
Food for thought.
I always understood the dirty bomb to be a bit of an over rated idea because the radioactive particles will get spread over an area but not in a sufficient concentration to do any harm. Anybody getting a dangerous dose is most likely going to be killed by the blast anyway.
Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
Gargamel said:
I don't see a problem with Isis having nuclear capability in 12 months.
Provided we use ours in 11.
Use them on who exactly? Nuclear weapons are fine if you want to destroy a nation state, but if your enemy is like militant islam with small groups spread widely across virtually the whole world then they're a bit useless. Provided we use ours in 11.
jurbie said:
I always understood the dirty bomb to be a bit of an over rated idea because the radioactive particles will get spread over an area but not in a sufficient concentration to do any harm. Anybody getting a dangerous dose is most likely going to be killed by the blast anyway.
Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
A dirty bomb with a couple of kilogrammes of the right stuff could render a large part of London uninhabitable for a few years while it was decontaminated. It is a serious threat, and taken seriously.Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
Unfortunately we helped create the vacuum in Iraq and Libya for these guys and bar a last minute rebellion in parliament we would have eliminated the opposition to these guys in Syria.
I'd personally have us withdraw from what they claim to be 'their lands' and let them get on with it. I don't really think they want to come our way at all. It's our involvement in 'their' affairs that has them potentially looking our way.
The entire IS confuses me. We seem to be fighting and losing a proxy war with them where their supporters we back in other places. I'm sure there is a plan somewhere in all of this.
I'd personally have us withdraw from what they claim to be 'their lands' and let them get on with it. I don't really think they want to come our way at all. It's our involvement in 'their' affairs that has them potentially looking our way.
The entire IS confuses me. We seem to be fighting and losing a proxy war with them where their supporters we back in other places. I'm sure there is a plan somewhere in all of this.
jurbie said:
I always understood the dirty bomb to be a bit of an over rated idea because the radioactive particles will get spread over an area but not in a sufficient concentration to do any harm. Anybody getting a dangerous dose is most likely going to be killed by the blast anyway.
Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
The damage / death / injury is not the primary purpose of this type of weapon. It is a weapon of terror. The mass panic near the scene would likely kill more than the blast and radiation as people try and get away and are killed in the crush, pushed under cars / trains etc. The other impact would be the changes in behavior that it would drive, mainly be security agencies being seen to do something. Think post 9-11 checks at airports.Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
jurbie said:
I always understood the dirty bomb to be a bit of an over rated idea because the radioactive particles will get spread over an area but not in a sufficient concentration to do any harm. Anybody getting a dangerous dose is most likely going to be killed by the blast anyway.
Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
I think you underestimate the propaganda value of such an act!Ultimately there will be casualties from the blast and then inconvenience due to the clean up but the idea of a few square miles of a city being dangerously contaminated is pretty wide of the mark.
Pistom said:
Daily Mail scaremongering.
It will never happen.
If NK ( with little ££ ) can build one, then ISIS with the billions is makes will purchase one, this is OLD tech now... only a matter of time.It will never happen.
Oh.. theres this -
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-03-22/...
Edited by superkartracer on Saturday 23 May 20:46
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