Tackling Food Wastage

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227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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elster said:
birtchstewie said:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/25/frenc...

I'd hope many of our supermarkets already do something like this as it seems like common sense rather than something which requires legislation.
Most used to do it. I don't know anyone who does it now thanks to Food Standards.
Come along to my local Tesco, they regularly put food unfit for human consumption on the reduced price/going out of date section.
Today it was slices of uncooked turkey breast which were grey, last week we had bacon which was going green/grey in places and beef which had turned from red to grey in areas, they regularly sell seafood which is slimy and stinks.

'Three for £10!' they claim, when it's going off you can buy one for £3.20. We love you Tesco, you're so generous.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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227bhp said:
elster said:
birtchstewie said:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/25/frenc...

I'd hope many of our supermarkets already do something like this as it seems like common sense rather than something which requires legislation.
Most used to do it. I don't know anyone who does it now thanks to Food Standards.
Come along to my local Tesco, they regularly put food unfit for human consumption on the reduced price/going out of date section.
Today it was slices of uncooked turkey breast which were grey, last week we had bacon which was going green/grey in places and beef which had turned from red to grey in areas, they regularly sell seafood which is slimy and stinks.

'Three for £10!' they claim, when it's going off you can buy one for £3.20. We love you Tesco, you're so generous.
A bit of discoloured meat does not make it unfit for consumption. It's a success for modern marketing that you think that though. Bacon has so much st injected in to it that you'd probably question it twice if you knew. The white stuff that comes out of non-dry cured bacon, for example? Chicken protein. Unless you're at the sausage end in which case it's pig jizz.

Edited by OpulentBob on Wednesday 27th May 05:06

wiggy001

6,545 posts

272 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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loafer123 said:
I go in there knowing they are trying to con me and do alot of mental arithmetic to beat them.
It's cute that you think you win.

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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wiggy001 said:
loafer123 said:
I go in there knowing they are trying to con me and do alot of mental arithmetic to beat them.
It's cute that you think you win.
Just trying to lose less badly!

I've got it to the stage that I no longer get the money off vouchers at the till - if you get a good one of those, you know you've been overcharged during your shop.

Hackney

6,852 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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loafer123 said:
Just trying to lose less badly!

I've got it to the stage that I no longer get the money off vouchers at the till - if you get a good one of those, you know you've been overcharged during your shop.
If you detest them that much why do you shop there?
I think "con" is too strong a word, maybe they're trying to get you to spend more. Is that exploiting rather than conning? Either way you have a choice over where to shop.

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Hackney said:
loafer123 said:
Just trying to lose less badly!

I've got it to the stage that I no longer get the money off vouchers at the till - if you get a good one of those, you know you've been overcharged during your shop.
If you detest them that much why do you shop there?
I think "con" is too strong a word, maybe they're trying to get you to spend more. Is that exploiting rather than conning? Either way you have a choice over where to shop.
There are two supermarkets within walking distance. For meat I go to the other one, but Tesco are more reliable for fruit and veg.

I believe they do con their customers through their promotions and pricing policy and I gave a clear example showing them selling their premium ("Finest") brand for less than their standard product. Most customers will believe the opposite unless they look very closely. This is not a rare policy, it is pretty standard, with multibuys more expensive than single purchases and "discounted" goods more expensive than the standard ones.

This contempt for customers is mirrored in their well-publicised attitude to suppliers, which is one of the reasons they are in such pain at the moment.

Until they change their attitude and culture, they will continue to suffer, as they have no goodwill with either. Treat your customers with contempt and they will treat you with contempt in return.

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

170 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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loafer123 said:
I believe they do con their customers through their promotions and pricing policy and I gave a clear example showing them selling their premium ("Finest") brand for less than their standard product. Most customers will believe the opposite unless they look very closely. This is not a rare policy, it is pretty standard, with multibuys more expensive than single purchases and "discounted" goods more expensive than the standard ones.
Indeed, pricing obfuscation and sneaky tricks regarding fake offers, et all, are one of the key reasons the major supermarkets are treated with disdain.

Basically, they have lost the trust of their customers big time, they are going to struggle to get that trust back, if they ever do.

This article uses Aldi now for the bulk of the weekly shop, their stuff is cheaper, and at least as good quality and often markedly better than the costlier opposition. The rest I get from Sainsbury's (mainly because my Mother is a fan of theirsand its next door to Aldi) and the local farm shop. Tesco, Morrisons, etc are unlikely to gain my preferential custom again.



Hackney

6,852 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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loafer123 said:
There are two supermarkets within walking distance. For meat I go to the other one, but Tesco are more reliable for fruit and veg.

I believe they do con their customers through their promotions and pricing policy and I gave a clear example showing them selling their premium ("Finest") brand for less than their standard product. Most customers will believe the opposite unless they look very closely. This is not a rare policy, it is pretty standard, with multibuys more expensive than single purchases and "discounted" goods more expensive than the standard ones.

This contempt for customers is mirrored in their well-publicised attitude to suppliers, which is one of the reasons they are in such pain at the moment.

Until they change their attitude and culture, they will continue to suffer, as they have no goodwill with either. Treat your customers with contempt and they will treat you with contempt in return.
I think I've found the products you're talking about.
Tesco Smoked / Unsmoked Gammon Steaks (2) 360g for £4.00 (also part of a promotion at the moment but I'll ignore that) = £11.12 per kilo
Tesco Finest Smoked / Unsmoked Wiltshire Gammon Steaks 460g for £5.00 = £10.87 per kilo

Looks odd on the face of it, could fat content be a factor?

In many years working with Tesco I've not seen an intentional con. Some very glaring errors mostly due to the absolutely lunatic number of promotions being run and associated price changes.

I'm not trying to make excuses for them, they've treated suppliers appallingly and been complacent to their customers. Just not sure there's a systemic plan to con customers.
(The city, maybe)

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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loafer123 said:
There are two supermarkets within walking distance. For meat I go to the other one, but Tesco are more reliable for fruit and veg.
If you're getting your meat from a Supermarket you're doing it wrong. We switched to a local butcher a year ago, the quality difference is amazing and he actually works out the same price or in some case cheaper. Especially Bacon, when you cook it there is little to no shrinkage and none of the milky white jizz you get with supermarket injected stuff.

Hackney

6,852 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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anonymous said:
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Always amazes me that Danish Bacon concocted a whole marketing campaign on "the sizzle" but all this proves is that they add a st load of water to their bacon!

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Hackney said:
anonymous said:
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Always amazes me that Danish Bacon concocted a whole marketing campaign on "the sizzle" but all this proves is that they add a st load of water to their bacon!
I have found the same with all supermarket bought food, especially chicken. I'll admit it helps that our butcher has moved with the times, order everything I want through their app, select whether I want it delivered or collect (5% discount if you collect) and they do special offers and monthly meat 'packs' so the decision wasnt a hard one


W124

1,545 posts

139 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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It's got to be done I suppose. Fundamentally, it's folly to waste the food. Hopefully it'll be distributed away from the supermarkets for the reasons listed above. I live near quite a rough town in the Chilterns (there are quite a few - it's not all Audis and Farrow and Ball) and the local chippy gives away what's left when he closes up. Doesn't make a fuss about it either. He tells me it's quite common but it's kept quiet so as not to attract the attention of the council, who probably do know but can see the sense in just ignoring it. There is, under all the madness, some sanity about still. I wouldn't worry about this leading to supermarkets under-ordering stuff - it's cut to the absolute bone as it is. They cannot reduce waste any more than they already do.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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anonymous said:
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I like chicken breast with the skin on. Tesco is reasonably priced. Go to the butcher and you pay more than you would for a whole damn chicken, and the butcher grumbles for having to prepare them. I think he preps them by throwing an axe at them or something, because although they taste good, they're an absolute fking mess when you unwrap them. Customer service. Another reason why small shops are dying off. I think they expect people to come in and take whatever the butcher decides they want to sell...