Sex offender release

[wc98]

Grumfutock said:

To an area where nobody knows of his past? Yep, great plan that! At least currently he can be watched and children warned.

agreed,point taken. i would sooner see us adopt the system they have in the states where families living in the same locality as convicted beasts are informed of their whereabouts so they can be a bit more careful with their kids. as a considerable number go on to re offend http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/96897... .

possibly along with some form of chemical castration.

[wolves_wanderer]

IvanSTi said:

So you're just avoiding a normal response and throwing a "witty" comment out there because what goes on in reality doesn't suit you?

Criticising me for not making a normal response is twitching the old irony meter.

[pete a]

IvanSTi said:

Well let's flip this on its head, you've a 4 year old son son/daughter and the nice young lad from next door, the babysitter decides one day it might be nice to stick his cock in him/her, just to see what it's like. Let's say you happen to catch him doing it as you're home early from the pub.
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I'd be more concerned with where I'd be living at the end of my 20-30 stretch than where he was gonna be in that scenario.

[greygoose]

Cyder said:

Christ alive its gone more Daily Wail than usual in here today.

Is that positive or negative on IvanSTI's house price as the bodies of dead pervs and incidences of gay rape mount up on his street?

[Cyder]

fk Ivan, I want to know how Kim Kardashian feels about this.

[IvanSTi]

wolves_wanderer said:

IvanSTi said:

So you're just avoiding a normal response and throwing a "witty" comment out there because what goes on in reality doesn't suit you?

Criticising me for not making a normal response is twitching the old irony meter.

I see, in your pure little world obviously this sort of thing doesn't go on then. Let's hope non of your kids are raped then eh?

"dad he raped me" as your daughter points at some bloke in the street who then runs off.
"ah don't worry my dear, someone will deal with it, and he'll go to jail for a very very long time. Well until you're ten, at least"

Edited by IvanSTi on Wednesday 27th May 23:01

Edited by IvanSTi on Wednesday 27th May 23:03

[IvanSTi]

pete a said:

IvanSTi said:

Well let's flip this on its head, you've a 4 year old son son/daughter and the nice young lad from next door, the babysitter decides one day it might be nice to stick his cock in him/her, just to see what it's like. Let's say you happen to catch him doing it as you're home early from the pub.
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I'd be more concerned with where I'd be living at the end of my 20-30 stretch than where he was gonna be in that scenario.

Exactly my point, but clearly this doesn't go on where all the powerfully built directors live

[Gareth79]

IvanSTi said:

Exactly my point, but clearly this doesn't go on where all the powerfully built directors live

The scenario posted is extremely rare, the majority of child abusers are the victim's family or their close friends.

The fixation of "stranger danger" means real problems are overlooked.

Edited by Gareth79 on Wednesday 27th May 23:12

[anonymous-user]

We do have a sexual offence disclosure scheme. It's sometimes known as "Sarah's law". It's like "Megan's law", but more limited in scope and specifically targeted at higher risk scenarios.

rohrl said:

Yes, I'm serious. The situation is as the situation is. He's been given a sentence and he's served it. He is now free from prison. He may be on licence and no doubt he will be under the supervision of a probation officer.

If you think his sentence should have been longer or harsher or you want to bring in the death penalty for sex offenders then it's up to you to campaign for a change in the law. Otherwise the only option is vigilante justice which is no justice at all.

There are freed sex offenders, murderers, fraudsters, burglars and so on in every village, town and city around the country. That's just the reality of living in a society where we don't have the death penalty and we don't tend to lock people up for the rest of their natural life. That's how we, as a society, have chosen to live and you're free to disagree with it but please don't make out that my position is outlandish or unusual.

Well put.

IvanSTi said:

what rock have you been living under? Are you saying that the police aren't and have never been corrupt? I can't believe what my eyes are reading.

Generally or the occasional individual? The latter's true, but the former is fiction.

IvanSTi said:

Well let's flip this on its head, you've a 4 year old son son/daughter and the nice young lad from next door, the babysitter decides one day it might be nice to stick his cock in him/her, just to see what it's like. Let's say you happen to catch him doing it as you're home early from the pub.

I guess you'd just tell him to politely pack his stuff away while you call the police and have him arrested? You'd be happy with that then? Of course you would. You're a goody two shoes.

Then he does his 5-10 years behind bars for fking your young child up the arse. Of course you're happy about that because he's done his time. Fair's fair and all that. Then he'll be safe enough to move back next door then? Yeah no problem, fill your boots son, enjoy your time behind bars? Welcome back home, you've been a miss, fancy taking my kid to the park to play footy. Get real and stop living in a pretend perfect planet will you.

What point are you actually making here?

[Getragdogleg]

What did the bloke do ? I asked earlier but was ignored in a flurry of indignant posts setting out imaginary scenarios.

[Grumfutock]

IvanSTi said:

Grumfutock said:

So to recap male rape is fine if done to a kiddy fiddler and the police are corrupt?

WOW!

what rock have you been living under? Are you saying that the police aren't and have never been corrupt? I can't believe what my eyes are reading.

Under a rock? Do one mate!

Do you think this is Syria or something? All police are corrupt? Do me a favour!!!!

I suggest that you wise up and realise you are not living in some sort of east end gangster film!

[wolves_wanderer]

Grumfutock said:

IvanSTi said:

Grumfutock said:

So to recap male rape is fine if done to a kiddy fiddler and the police are corrupt?

WOW!

what rock have you been living under? Are you saying that the police aren't and have never been corrupt? I can't believe what my eyes are reading.

Under a rock? Do one mate!

Do you think this is Syria or something? All police are corrupt? Do me a favour!!!!

I suggest that you wise up and realise you are not living in some sort of east end gangster film!

Come on, you know the rules. If you don't think the best punishment is some kind of vigilante murder or rape (thought up in a suspiciously detailed way) then you are condoning the rape and murder of children. Obviously.

[Studio117]

Gareth79 said:

Studio117 said:

My first thought when reading the first few replies, thanks for saving me the time!

Bunch of hysterical old ladies.

[Grumfutock]

wolves_wanderer said:

Come on, you know the rules. If you don't think the best punishment is some kind of vigilante murder or rape (thought up in a suspiciously detailed way) then you are condoning the rape and murder of children. Obviously.

For once, and I know this is really controversial, but I agree with you.

WOW I think I now need to lay down for a bit.

[anonymous-user]

I think the whole episode is worth a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=91&v=RcU7FaEEz...

[menguin]

Please, Ivan...

IvanSTi said:

I see, in your pure little world obviously this sort of thing doesn't go on then. Let's hope non of your kids are raped then eh?

"dad he raped me" as your daughter points at some bloke in the street who then runs off.
"ah don't worry my dear, someone will deal with it, and he'll go to jail for a very very long time. Well until you're ten, at least"

Watch this:

La Liga said:

I think the whole episode is worth a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=91&v=RcU7FaEEz...

It is essentially a TV show about you.

[Oakey]

Grumfutock said:

Under a rock? Do one mate!

Do you think this is Syria or something? All police are corrupt? Do me a favour!!!!

I suggest that you wise up and realise you are not living in some sort of east end gangster film!

To be fair, he's not far off;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusi...

[wolves_wanderer]

Grumfutock said:

wolves_wanderer said:

Come on, you know the rules. If you don't think the best punishment is some kind of vigilante murder or rape (thought up in a suspiciously detailed way) then you are condoning the rape and murder of children. Obviously.

For once, and I know this is really controversial, but I agree with you.

WOW I think I now need to lay down for a bit.

Don't worry, it'll pass

[Grumfutock]

wolves_wanderer said:

Grumfutock said:

wolves_wanderer said:

Come on, you know the rules. If you don't think the best punishment is some kind of vigilante murder or rape (thought up in a suspiciously detailed way) then you are condoning the rape and murder of children. Obviously.

For once, and I know this is really controversial, but I agree with you.

WOW I think I now need to lay down for a bit.

Don't worry, it'll pass

No it wont

[irocfan]

as has been previously asked... what was the offence?

Was it 'just' having pics?
Was it taking pics?
Was it grooming?
Was it touching?
Was it full on?

Then how old was the child? 5? 10? Virtually 16?

Each of these will give you a different way of looking at things.

I'd venture to suggest that he wasn't raping a baby with only 7 years served and so was possibly at the 'less serious' end of the scale (don't get me wrong it's all serious but there are degrees). As has been mentioned by others if he was viewed as a clear danger he'd have not been released (though obviously mistakes are made!), so if he has served the sentence then he has to live somewhere. Whether that sentence was too short is a whole new kettle of fish.

If he was interfering with a girl a few months before she turned 16 it's still wrong but there could be more to that scenario and so on and so forth....