Sex offender release

[WCZ]

Getragdogleg said:

What did the bloke do ? I asked earlier but was ignored in a flurry of indignant posts setting out imaginary scenarios.

+1

you can be put on the register for things like 'flashing'. I also believe there a large amount of people who do stupid things on the internet that they would never do in 'real life'.

I'm wondering how many votes a death penalty for all sex offenders referendum would get in this country.

[Disastrous]

Now hang on a minute. Ivan has painted a vivid picture of a totally made-up scenario and I for one, as an imaginary parent want to know what us being done to protect MY fictional children from harm!!??

[Grumfutock]

Disastrous said:

Now hang on a minute. Ivan has painted a vivid picture of a totally made-up scenario and I for one, as an imaginary parent want to know what us being done to protect MY fictional children from harm!!??

Please rest assured that the fictional vigilantes are, as we speak, bumming said fiddler. He will then be beaten, tar and feathered and burnt at the stake until it really hurts. The police will be given a bung to look the other way and everyone will live happily ever after (except the fiddler, who will have an arse like a blood orange).

[IvanSTi]

Grumfutock said:

Under a rock? Do one mate!

Do you think this is Syria or something? All police are corrupt? Do me a favour!!!!

I suggest that you wise up and realise you are not living in some sort of east end gangster film!

Ok Danny Dyer, keep yer hair on Bruv. Where did I say that they were all corrupt? FFS do you just like to pick and choose what you read.

Here, have a read. 2014. That's 1 year ago btw, just so you know.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusi...

That's one case mentioned within about 3 second of googling for "police corruption cases".

[Disastrous]

Grumfutock said:

Disastrous said:

Now hang on a minute. Ivan has painted a vivid picture of a totally made-up scenario and I for one, as an imaginary parent want to know what us being done to protect MY fictional children from harm!!??

Please rest assured that the fictional vigilantes are, as we speak, bumming said fiddler. He will then be beaten, tar and feathered and burnt at the stake until it really hurts. The police will be given a bung to look the other way and everyone will live happily ever after (except the fiddler, who will have an arse like a blood orange).

Good to know and I rest assured.

One thing though - can I have your guarantee that at one point in the proceedings an East End crime boss type figure (you know, salt of the earth, hard but fair, never swore in front of his old mam etc) will be overseeing proceedings from the back of his Jag and slowly wind down the window and say something like "an let that be a lesson to yer! We don't loike nonces and the old bill work for me in this taaaaahn. Now fack off, you facking can't, or next toime I shan't be so lenient..."?

[Grumfutock]

Disastrous said:

Grumfutock said:

Disastrous said:

Now hang on a minute. Ivan has painted a vivid picture of a totally made-up scenario and I for one, as an imaginary parent want to know what us being done to protect MY fictional children from harm!!??

Please rest assured that the fictional vigilantes are, as we speak, bumming said fiddler. He will then be beaten, tar and feathered and burnt at the stake until it really hurts. The police will be given a bung to look the other way and everyone will live happily ever after (except the fiddler, who will have an arse like a blood orange).

Good to know and I rest assured.

One thing though - can I have your guarantee that at one point in the proceedings an East End crime boss type figure (you know, salt of the earth, hard but fair, never swore in front of his old mam etc) will be overseeing proceedings from the back of his Jag and slowly wind down the window and say something like "an let that be a lesson to yer! We don't loike nonces and the old bill work for me in this taaaaahn. Now fack off, you facking can't, or next toime I shan't be so lenient..."?

I will even ensure he has a gold tooth and ends the conversation with "you slaggggggggggggg!"

[Hackney]

IvanSTi said:

Well let's flip this on its head, you've a 4 year old son son/daughter and the nice young lad from next door, the babysitter decides one day it might be nice to stick his cock in him/her, just to see what it's like. Let's say you happen to catch him doing it as you're home early from the pub.

I guess you'd just tell him to politely pack his stuff away while you call the police and have him arrested? You'd be happy with that then? Of course you would. You're a goody two shoes.

Then he does his 5-10 years behind bars for fking your young child up the arse. Of course you're happy about that because he's done his time. Fair's fair and all that. Then he'll be safe enough to move back next door then? Yeah no problem, fill your boots son, enjoy your time behind bars? Welcome back home, you've been a miss, fancy taking my kid to the park to play footy. Get real and stop living in a pretend perfect planet will you.

Ignoring the first statement (I'm not a 4 year old son/daughter so how is this relevant) you're essentially asking if I want to ruin my own life and my child's or do I want to ruin the "paedo next door"?

No, I would not politely ask him anything. I'd make sure he didn't go anywhere until the police could attend. Why does that make me a "goody two shoes", I suppose calling the police makes me a grass?

I'd much rather he do 5-10 and has his life ruined lets not forget, than I take matters into my own hands and end up doing the same or worse for assault, murder etc. So my vulnerable child is now fatherless too just to add to his/her distress and messed up life.

How is that any kind of justice?
Where do you think up these scenarios of returning criminals being given free reign?
Do you think bank robbers have to live 100miles form the nearest bank? Do you think muggers have to live 100miles from anyone with a handbag?

[Oakey]

Disastrous said:

Good to know and I rest assured.

One thing though - can I have your guarantee that at one point in the proceedings an East End crime boss type figure (you know, salt of the earth, hard but fair, never swore in front of his old mam etc) will be overseeing proceedings from the back of his Jag and slowly wind down the window and say something like "an let that be a lesson to yer! We don't loike nonces and the old bill work for me in this taaaaahn. Now fack off, you facking can't, or next toime I shan't be so lenient..."?

'taaaahn'? 'loike'? 'toime'? Can this fictional gangster not decide if he's from the East End or Ireland?

[IvanSTi]

Hackney said:

Ignoring the first statement (I'm not a 4 year old son/daughter so how is this relevant) you're essentially asking if I want to ruin my own life and my child's or do I want to ruin the "paedo next door"?

No, I would not politely ask him anything. I'd make sure he didn't go anywhere until the police could attend. Why does that make me a "goody two shoes", I suppose calling the police makes me a grass?

I'd much rather he do 5-10 and has his life ruined lets not forget, than I take matters into my own hands and end up doing the same or worse for assault, murder etc. So my vulnerable child is now fatherless too just to add to his/her distress and messed up life.

How is that any kind of justice?
Where do you think up these scenarios of returning criminals being given free reign?
Do you think bank robbers have to live 100miles form the nearest bank? Do you think muggers have to live 100miles from anyone with a handbag?

So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.

[Oakey]

IvanSTi said:

So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.

Show us on the doll where the man touched you

[Disastrous]

Oakey said:

Disastrous said:

Good to know and I rest assured.

One thing though - can I have your guarantee that at one point in the proceedings an East End crime boss type figure (you know, salt of the earth, hard but fair, never swore in front of his old mam etc) will be overseeing proceedings from the back of his Jag and slowly wind down the window and say something like "an let that be a lesson to yer! We don't loike nonces and the old bill work for me in this taaaaahn. Now fack off, you facking can't, or next toime I shan't be so lenient..."?

'taaaahn'? 'loike'? 'toime'? Can this fictional gangster not decide if he's from the East End or Ireland?

It's a fair question but how do you write 'time' phonetically the way cockneys say it? 'Toym' maybe?

[TankRizzo]

IvanSTi said:

So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.

[Faust66]

Funny old world we live in.

Parents routinely leave their kids alone with people they don't know for hour upon hour, and day after day (babysitter, nursery etc.) and then get all worked up about 'stranger danger'…

Hmmmm, sense of guilt there, perhaps?

And how the whole hysteria of "Eeeeek! There's a nonce next door!" translates into gay rape fantasies in the mind of Ivan STi is really quite interesting…

For the record I am not defending Paedophiles. I do find the whole 'Daily Mail' type of hysteria darkly amusing and also slightly worrying, however. I don't have kids so I like to think that I can be a bit more rational about the whole subject of what to 'do' with convicted 'peados' . IMO if a person has been convicted of such crimes, they should be allowed to live as any other citizen upon their release from prison - as long as they are very carefully monitored in case they re-offend.

[wolves_wanderer]

Disastrous said:

Oakey said:

Disastrous said:

Good to know and I rest assured.

One thing though - can I have your guarantee that at one point in the proceedings an East End crime boss type figure (you know, salt of the earth, hard but fair, never swore in front of his old mam etc) will be overseeing proceedings from the back of his Jag and slowly wind down the window and say something like "an let that be a lesson to yer! We don't loike nonces and the old bill work for me in this taaaaahn. Now fack off, you facking can't, or next toime I shan't be so lenient..."?

'taaaahn'? 'loike'? 'toime'? Can this fictional gangster not decide if he's from the East End or Ireland?

It's a fair question but how do you write 'time' phonetically the way cockneys say it? 'Toym' maybe?

The fictional gangster obviously has connections to Ireland. I think that he would have probably used some fictional "provo" mates to do the fictional beating, maybe threatening the "peado" with a fictional kneecapping if he did it again.

Edited by wolves_wanderer on Thursday 28th May 11:02

[Grumfutock]

IvanSTi said:

So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.

Spin this on it's head. You're 18 year old son pulls a bird one night and gets lucky. It later turns out that she is 14 and he gets done even though she looked 18 and said she was. He is punished via the courts and put on a register. However everyone finds out and wants to beat him, evict him and /or male rape him.

Your opinion please? (Police can not help him or you as the vigilantes have bribed them to stay away).

[Hackney]

IvanSTi said:

So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.

What the fk are you talking about?

Define "a few".
I'd be much happier that he does time than I do, does that answer your question.

Do you apply this logic to all crimes, it's OK to do a bit of murdering as long as they do the time? It's not a trade off! No-one's "happy" in this situation. It's a punishment / rehabilitation for a crime, not some bartering system of "yeah, you go ahead and do this and we'll lock you up for a bit. Actually there's a 3 for 2 on at the moment if you do an assault, rape and murder two of the sentences will run concurrently, can't say fairer than that"

BTW it's paedos not peado's. The apostrophe indicates something belonging to the "peado", something to do with peas maybe?

[irocfan]

Grumfutock said:

IvanSTi said:

So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.

Spin this on it's head. You're 18 year old son pulls a bird one night and gets lucky. It later turns out that she is 14 and he gets done even though she looked 18 and said she was. He is punished via the courts and put on a register. However everyone finds out and wants to beat him, evict him and /or male rape him.

Your opinion please? (Police can not help him or you as the vigilantes have bribed them to stay away).

but but but - it's underage sex therefore he's a pedo [sic] <wail wail wail>

[andymc]

nonce named in my local town, queue mothers taking to facebook with string him up! where are the police etc etc, a week later and same mothers letting their 7 year olds walk to school alone

[Disastrous]

IvanSTi said:

So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.

This is the most preposterous bit of extrapolation I've read on PH in weeks!

It's an utterly bizarre way of looking at crime - it's not like it's 'ok' to rob a bank as long as you've resigned yourself for 10-15 years afterwards. A lunatic might see it that way and in a sense, it's rather hard to argue with in that once a bank robber has done his time, he's a free man. You'd have to apply the same logic to a paedo but it sounds more like what you really mean is that you are unhappy with the punishment currently meted out by our judicial system for crimes of a sexual nature against children.

That's fair enough if so, and you are free to lobby and fight for change, but it's a bit of a leap to suggest that those who are ok with punishment and subsequent rehabilitation are condoning child abuse.

[wolves_wanderer]

andymc said:

nonce named in my local town, queue mothers taking to facebook with string him up! where are the police etc etc, a week later and same mothers letting their 7 year olds walk to school alone

I walked to school alone in the 80s when apparently everyone was a "peado" and I didn't get nonced up once. Maybe I was just an ugly child