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Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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irocfan said:
Grumfutock said:
IvanSTi said:
So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.
Spin this on it's head. You're 18 year old son pulls a bird one night and gets lucky. It later turns out that she is 14 and he gets done even though she looked 18 and said she was. He is punished via the courts and put on a register. However everyone finds out and wants to beat him, evict him and /or male rape him.

Your opinion please? (Police can not help him or you as the vigilantes have bribed them to stay away).
but but but - it's underage sex therefore he's a pedo [sic] <wail wail wail>
My point entirely.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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wolves_wanderer said:
andymc said:
nonce named in my local town, queue mothers taking to facebook with string him up! where are the police etc etc, a week later and same mothers letting their 7 year olds walk to school alone
I walked to school alone in the 80s when apparently everyone was a "peado" and I didn't get nonced up once. Maybe I was just an ugly child cry
Should of written in to the BBC. Jim could of fixed it for you.

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Cor! It's like a council estate mob in this thread! rolleyes

I'm with Rohrl on this one.


gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Dog Star said:
Cor! It's like a council estate mob in this thread! rolleyes

I'm with Rohrl on this one.
Yep, I have to agree.

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Just me that would be a bit offended if their fictional son wasn't nonced up a bit? I mean, his mother's a knockout and let's be honest, his old man's not too shabby either so it should come as no surprise to hear that he's a pretty exceptionally handsome child.

I mean we don't actively want it to happen, but for God's sake, if that hideous creature that our neighbour spawned gets attacked on the school run, the least we would expect is a bit of illicit photographing of ours.

I'm offended. It's discrimination of a sort, when you think about it.

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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I'm sure OP didn't intend this thread to provide comedy value but some of it is hilarious.

Particularly liking the fictional black guy teaching the fictional nonces a lesson bit!

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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PorkInsider said:
I'm sure OP didn't intend this thread to provide comedy value but some of it is hilarious.

Particularly liking the fictional black guy teaching the fictional nonces a lesson bit!
With a name like that I suggest you stay well away from this thread or you will be burnt at the stake!

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Grumfutock said:
PorkInsider said:
I'm sure OP didn't intend this thread to provide comedy value but some of it is hilarious.

Particularly liking the fictional black guy teaching the fictional nonces a lesson bit!
With a name like that I suggest you stay well away from this thread or you will be burnt at the stake!
Oh crap! Didn't think of that.

Move along please, nothing to see here.

(It would be a fictional fire of course anyway.)

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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PorkInsider said:
Grumfutock said:
PorkInsider said:
I'm sure OP didn't intend this thread to provide comedy value but some of it is hilarious.

Particularly liking the fictional black guy teaching the fictional nonces a lesson bit!
With a name like that I suggest you stay well away from this thread or you will be burnt at the stake!
Oh crap! Didn't think of that.

Move along please, nothing to see here.

(It would be a fictional fire of course anyway.)
smile

TankRizzo

7,269 posts

193 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Grumfutock said:
My point entirely.
rofl Ivan is talking Nonce Sense!

IvanSTi

635 posts

119 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Disastrous said:
IvanSTi said:
So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.
rofl

This is the most preposterous bit of extrapolation I've read on PH in weeks!

It's an utterly bizarre way of looking at crime - it's not like it's 'ok' to rob a bank as long as you've resigned yourself for 10-15 years afterwards. A lunatic might see it that way and in a sense, it's rather hard to argue with in that once a bank robber has done his time, he's a free man. You'd have to apply the same logic to a paedo but it sounds more like what you really mean is that you are unhappy with the punishment currently meted out by our judicial system for crimes of a sexual nature against children.

That's fair enough if so, and you are free to lobby and fight for change, but it's a bit of a leap to suggest that those who are ok with punishment and subsequent rehabilitation are condoning child abuse.
So everything I've said has been blown way out of proportion, so I've tried to get the point across in a different manner. but once I say something outlandish about someone elses comment, I'm being preposterous. Makes sense. This is PH after all.

Examples; I said the police can be/are corruptible. That means that I said that every single copper is bent.
I mentioned a story about a black bloke who raped a few people who were nonces back in the 70's/80's (before I was born) - he turned out to be my mate and bummed every nonce from here to Timbuktu.
Yes, I made up a scenario, hardly a scenario that's over the top since a similar situation has been reported. now I want to be a Vigilante and leave bodies strewn across the road outside my house.

Well at least things don't get blown out of proportion eh?

Edited by IvanSTi on Thursday 28th May 12:04

gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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TankRizzo said:
Grumfutock said:
My point entirely.
rofl Ivan is talking Nonce Sense!
roflroflrofl

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Grumfutock said:
IvanSTi said:
So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.
Spin this on it's head. You're 18 year old son pulls a bird one night and gets lucky. It later turns out that she is 14 and he gets done even though she looked 18 and said she was. He is punished via the courts and put on a register. However everyone finds out and wants to beat him, evict him and /or male rape him.

Your opinion please? (Police can not help him or you as the vigilantes have bribed them to stay away).
Come on Ivan, what of this situation? Brutally man bum or let off?

Snozzwangler

12,230 posts

194 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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gruffalo said:
TankRizzo said:
Grumfutock said:
My point entirely.
rofl Ivan is talking Nonce Sense!
roflroflrofl

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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IvanSTi said:
So everything I've said has been blown way out of proportion, so I've tried to get the point across in a different manner.
What point?

IvanSTi

635 posts

119 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Grumfutock said:
Grumfutock said:
IvanSTi said:
So essentially you'd be happy that he's served a few years behind bars for buggering your son? You'd be fine with that would you? So in a roundabout way, it's OK for peado's to touch little kids so long as they do the time for doing the crime. Marvellous.
Spin this on it's head. You're 18 year old son pulls a bird one night and gets lucky. It later turns out that she is 14 and he gets done even though she looked 18 and said she was. He is punished via the courts and put on a register. However everyone finds out and wants to beat him, evict him and /or male rape him.

Your opinion please? (Police can not help him or you as the vigilantes have bribed them to stay away).
Come on Ivan, what of this situation? Brutally man bum or let off?
This is hardly someone going out to intentionally rape a kid is it, so how is it even close to a similar situation?

There's a bit of difference between a 14/15 year old out on the drink and parting her legs for someone to fk someone willingly over someone being raped.

And if you don't see the difference between consenting sex (of any age) and rape there's serious issues.

Edited by IvanSTi on Thursday 28th May 12:13

IvanSTi

635 posts

119 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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La Liga said:
IvanSTi said:
So everything I've said has been blown way out of proportion, so I've tried to get the point across in a different manner.
What point?
About people saying that as long as the rapist has done the time it's ok for them to live in our society.

Yes, they have to because of the stupid lenient system we have in place for people like this.

"They have to live somewhere" doesn't cut it.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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IvanSTi said:
This is hardly someone going out to intentionally rape a kid is it, so how is it even close to a similar situation?

There's a bit of difference between a 14/15 year old out on the drink and parting her legs for someone to fk someone willingly over someone being raped.

And if you don't see the difference between consenting sex (of any age) and rape there's serious issues.

Edited by IvanSTi on Thursday 28th May 12:13
Sorry but are you now saying it is OK to be a nonce as long as the child is a willing participant? And that rape is OK if it is on a nonce but banned in all other situations?

And who was talking about just rape of a child? Not you!

IvanSTi said:
Well at least he won't do it again, that's for sure. And no, I have zero sympathy for someone who thinks it's acceptable to fk, touch or 'simply' photograph children.

Time served or not, they're the worst of the worst and I'd rather have a murderer living next door, than one of these pieces of st.

ETA I hope it excruciating for him too DW
So again I ask. Where would you stand in the scenario I gave you?

PS you can admit you were wrong any time now or just keep digging.

WCZ

10,525 posts

194 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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IvanSTi said:
About people saying that as long as the rapist has done the time it's ok for them to live in our society.

Yes, they have to because of the stupid lenient system we have in place for people like this.

"They have to live somewhere" doesn't cut it.
you believe rehabilitation is possible, others do.
your 'point' was based on inserting yourself into a scenario and contrasting your then emotionally based reaction with an abstracted one which is silly, if someone stole my car I may want to react violently and cripple them for life whilst aware it's not a sane response.

IvanSTi

635 posts

119 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Grumfutock said:
IvanSTi said:
This is hardly someone going out to intentionally rape a kid is it, so how is it even close to a similar situation?

There's a bit of difference between a 14/15 year old out on the drink and parting her legs for someone to fk someone willingly over someone being raped.

And if you don't see the difference between consenting sex (of any age) and rape there's serious issues.

Edited by IvanSTi on Thursday 28th May 12:13
Sorry but are you now saying it is OK to be a nonce as long as the child is a willing participant? And that rape is OK if it is on a nonce but banned in all other situations?

And who was talking about just rape of a child? Not you!

IvanSTi said:
Well at least he won't do it again, that's for sure. And no, I have zero sympathy for someone who thinks it's acceptable to fk, touch or 'simply' photograph children.

Time served or not, they're the worst of the worst and I'd rather have a murderer living next door, than one of these pieces of st.

ETA I hope it excruciating for him too DW
So again I ask. Where would you stand in the scenario I gave you?

PS you can admit you were wrong any time now or just keep digging.
Just exactly where did I say that it was OK? Again, twisting my words, well done, at least you're also in keeping with the thread.
Consensual sex is different to rape, you do know that?
And yes, photographing without the consent of the other is molestation/interference/whatever you'd like to call it.

And no I won't stand down on what I believe to be right. It's all been blown way out of proportion, but I do believe a lot harsher punishments should be dealt for rapists/peado's and the like, no matter what level they go to.