The law is a joke!

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AlexC1981

4,904 posts

216 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Not defending him, but when you are 19 you don't really think about the consequences of driving fast. When I was 19 my car had 47bhp. Looking back, I'm glad that's all it had!

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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BlackLabel said:
According to the Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3101081/Pi...

"A friend hired it on behalf of Haroon as he only held a provisional licence and he had been giving lifts to a number of his friends."
Hope he gets same sentence

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

232 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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marmitemania said:
I don't think driving at 80 through a residential was taking much care to avoid an accident. Hang the fu@ker high.
Neither of the roads concerned (Bury Rd and Sandy La) are residential roads (as described by el beeb rofl ) - though they both have houses adjacent the road, they are main drags; one runs straight in to the town centre from the west and the other is a north-south-town-centre-westerly-bypass-of-sorts.

But when did the facts ever get in the way of a good story?? silly

I'd be looking at hanging the BBC "reporter" who posted this drivel, personally - but that's a thread for NP&E.

D'oh! nuts


greygoose

8,224 posts

194 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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B'stard Child said:
BlackLabel said:
According to the Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3101081/Pi...

"A friend hired it on behalf of Haroon as he only held a provisional licence and he had been giving lifts to a number of his friends."
Hope he gets same sentence
He certainly deserves it.

Jim the Sunderer

3,238 posts

181 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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That's a long enough stretch to come out radicalised.

98elise

26,376 posts

160 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Blakewater said:
Lots of people have done stupid things as teenagers and got away without doing harm. I daresay a few people on here have. They've all had the chance to grow up and become more sensible and most have. I don't condone what this guy did and nothing will bring back the person he killed, but should he really have the rest of his life taken away because of it?
There are degrees of stupidity though. Doing 80 on a motorway is breaking the law, as is 80 through a residential street and going through a red light. One is very stupid indeed.

Driving like that was going to end badly at some point, it was just a matter of when. He deserves a long sentence.....actually he deserved to die in the accident rather than the innocent victim.

Smokehead

7,703 posts

227 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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98elise said:
Blakewater said:
Lots of people have done stupid things as teenagers and got away without doing harm. I daresay a few people on here have. They've all had the chance to grow up and become more sensible and most have. I don't condone what this guy did and nothing will bring back the person he killed, but should he really have the rest of his life taken away because of it?
There are degrees of stupidity though. Doing 80 on a motorway is breaking the law, as is 80 through a residential street and going through a red light. One is very stupid indeed.

Driving like that was going to end badly at some point, it was just a matter of when. He deserves a long sentence.....actually he deserved to die in the accident rather than the innocent victim.
Hear Hear!

schmunk

4,399 posts

124 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Those of you proposing life (or death) sentences, what would you consider to be a fair sentence if he'd been caught speeding in the same circumstances, without crashing?

Kermit power

28,634 posts

212 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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According to the article, he pled guilty to causing death whilst unlicensed... Does anyone know how I'd go about obtaining a licence to cause death? I have one or two candidates in mind!! hehe

loafer123

15,404 posts

214 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Jim the Sunderer said:
That's a long enough stretch to come out radicalised.
Good point.

Then he can fk off to Syria and it is effectively a death sentence.

Win win.

Dog Star

16,079 posts

167 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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aw51 121565 said:
Neither of the roads concerned (Bury Rd and Sandy La) are residential roads (as described by el beeb rofl ) - though they both have houses adjacent the road, they are main drags; one runs straight in to the town centre from the west and the other is a north-south-town-centre-westerly-bypass-of-sorts.
Are you taking the piss? Sandy Lane not residential? Sorry? It's got hardly any straights, it has busy caaaahncil houses on either side.

Bury Road has - all in the proximity of said junction shops, cemetary, petrol station, pub, many houses and junctions to many, many more houses.

There's a reason I know all this.

Funnily enough I was once in the Cemetary Pub one night and there was a tremendous screech and a bang. Went outside and there was a crashed car and a body lying with it's head against the kerb with all the brains coming out. I went back into the pub. That driver was a person, innit, bruv, who had steamed through the lights, on red, at about 80.

There's a reason that neither I nor any of my mates will drive in certain areas of Rochdale at night - it's all of the idiots, innit, tooling around in brand new RS4s, M3s etc etc with their mates hanging out of the windows wanting a race or just driving like utter tools.

oyster

12,577 posts

247 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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AlexC1981 said:
Not defending him, but when you are 19 you don't really think about the consequences of driving fast. When I was 19 my car had 47bhp. Looking back, I'm glad that's all it had!
Rubbish.

I'd say most 12 year olds know the risks and consequences, let alone an 18 year old.


I can't believe how people can come on here and defend a fully grown MAN who willfully took risks with other peoples' lives. Innocent lives.

Driving uninsured - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving unlicenced - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving dangerously - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving through a red light - 18 year olds don't do this.
Driving obscenely fast (80+ in a 30) - 18 year olds again don't do this

This poor excuse of a human managed to do all of the above - at the same time. Age is no excuse. He is human vermin.

As someone else said, what sentence would someone get for spraying bullets randomly down the street and killing someone? Why is it so different when a vehicle is involved?

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

162 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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oyster said:
Driving uninsured - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving unlicenced - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving dangerously - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving through a red light - 18 year olds don't do this.
Driving obscenely fast (80+ in a 30) - 18 year olds again don't do this
I'd probably agree with the "not many" which means an absolute st load do. Also they occasionally do drive obscenely fast and they do go through red lights, I don't know what world you live in but it ain't the same one as me.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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What, no underage girls in the car? Praise be for small mercies.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Why would there be underage girls in the car?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

147 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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e21Mark said:
Why would there be underage girls in the car?
He's possibly confusing Rochdale with Rotherham.

oyster

12,577 posts

247 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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StottyEvo said:
oyster said:
Driving uninsured - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving unlicenced - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving dangerously - not many 18 year olds would do that.
Driving through a red light - 18 year olds don't do this.
Driving obscenely fast (80+ in a 30) - 18 year olds again don't do this
I'd probably agree with the "not many" which means an absolute st load do. Also they occasionally do drive obscenely fast and they do go through red lights, I don't know what world you live in but it ain't the same one as me.
Apart from the fact you selectively quoted my post and hence removed the context, you have also re-enforced my opinion that driving privileges should be restricted only to those older than 17 and 18.


As to the world I live in, not a place where many teenagers kill innocent people for fun.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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xRIEx said:
e21Mark said:
Why would there be underage girls in the car?
He's possibly confusing Rochdale with Rotherham.
No, I'm not.


SEE YA

3,522 posts

244 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Until you are in that position, to lose someone in your family due to the above.
Who knows how we would feel then?

Its hard to say then you go to court, and the person only gets eight years a slap in the face and a joke.

Sorry eye for a eye for me.


Soov535

35,829 posts

270 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Quhet said:
How did he hire it without a licence?
Likely to be someone else hired it, then rents it out in one hours slots to the local innits for cash.

Popular in Tower Hamlets and Bradford. Especially during weddings.



Edited by Soov535 on Friday 29th May 11:42