North London sect bans women drivers.

North London sect bans women drivers.

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ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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johnfm said:
Hope these schools don't receive any state funding.
DfE going to investigate apparently.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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rofl

Stone age fkwits sounding like fkwits again.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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TurboHatchback said:
From my point of view all extremist religeous nutters are unwelcome here, whether they are are Muslims, Jews of Christians they can respectively fk off to Syria/Israel/Texas if they want to practise and spread their mental illness.
Crazy, the lot of 'em. I know people who go to church and all that, but none of them are fanatics that believe in god and stuff.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Imagine if the women drivers were delivering cakes to the school marked "Support Gay Marriage"?

I'm trying to work out what part of the Talmud/Old Testament clearly states that women shouldn't drive. I presume they were referring to chariots.

No wonder Boudica was a persona non gratis in ancient times.

rohrl

8,742 posts

146 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Crazy, the lot of 'em. I know people who go to church and all that, but none of them are fanatics that believe in god and stuff.
This is why the CofE is the best church. The Archbishop Of Canterbury doesn't even pretend to believe in the literal truth of the Bible and you kind of know that after a few pints of beer he'd admit that he's not even sure if he believes in God and he only took the job for the hat.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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rohrl said:
This is why the CofE is the best church. The Archbishop Of Canterbury doesn't even pretend to believe in the literal truth of the Bible and you kind of know that after a few pints of beer he'd admit that he's not even sure if he believes in God and he only took the job for the hat massive stipend and exxies.
FTFY

jonby

5,357 posts

158 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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This lot are stated in the article to be Belz, who I personally detest

For the uninitiated, Hassidic is the general terms that covers lots of different sects of ultra observant orthodox jews. One such sect is Belz. Each has their own leader and their own interpretation of certain laws. Each sect even has slightly different hats, so for instance the Satmar are the ones with the very wide fur hats

Lubavitch are at one extreme, providing huge support to anyone that needs it, regardless of levels of observance, including the poor, the unwell, the elderly, etc. A typical Friday night at a Lubavitch house will see lots of guests welcomed from every walk of life, with no ulterior motive. The Belz on the other hand are incredibly insular, looking only to take, not to give back. To me that completely contradicts the basic essence of what a religious person should be about, so I have no sympathy with them whatsoever - what's the point in keeping all these ludicrous rules if you lose sight of the most important thing, which is to treat your fellow man as you hope to be treated in return.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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jonby said:
This lot are stated in the article to be Belz, who I personally detest

For the uninitiated, Hassidic is the general terms that covers lots of different sects of ultra observant orthodox jews. One such sect is Belz. Each has their own leader and their own interpretation of certain laws. Each sect even has slightly different hats, so for instance the Satmar are the ones with the very wide fur hats

Lubavitch are at one extreme, providing huge support to anyone that needs it, regardless of levels of observance, including the poor, the unwell, the elderly, etc. A typical Friday night at a Lubavitch house will see lots of guests welcomed from every walk of life, with no ulterior motive. The Belz on the other hand are incredibly insular, looking only to take, not to give back. To me that completely contradicts the basic essence of what a religious person should be about, so I have no sympathy with them whatsoever - what's the point in keeping all these ludicrous rules if you lose sight of the most important thing, which is to treat your fellow man as you hope to be treated in return.
Really, what's the point in keeping all these ludicrous rules, full stop?

Octoposse

2,164 posts

186 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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THE GUARDIAN said:
But a statement issued on behalf of women in the sect by a local Belz women’s organisation said . . . “We do, however, understand that there are many who conduct lifestyles that are different to ours, and we do not, in any way, disrespect them or the decisions they make.”
Actually, IMHO, that sounds like a recipie for a harmonious society.

bitchstewie

51,395 posts

211 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Einion Yrth said:
Really, what's the point in keeping all these ludicrous rules, full stop?
They're ludicrous to you and me.

I'm not religious but I don't get particularly bothered by those who choose to be, provided it's of their own free will.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Octoposse said:
THE GUARDIAN said:
But a statement issued on behalf of women in the sect by a local Belz women’s organisation said . . . “We do, however, understand that there are many who conduct lifestyles that are different to ours, and we do not, in any way, disrespect them or the decisions they make.”
Actually, IMHO, that sounds like a recipie for a harmonious society.
Could be the reason they live in the UK & don't get constantly singled out in the tabloids as the spawn of satan?

S 8 GRN

1,179 posts

244 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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pops666tt said:
Shouldn't we all be going nuts.

Shouldn't the media hype be front page news.

Oh wait they're Jewish, not Muslim.

Now I understand.
Back again are we? Seen anyone about your condition?

Let's remind ourselves what you've previously said about Jewish people

pops666tt said:
I believe they are more dangerous than we are led to believe...

dudleybloke

19,852 posts

187 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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I'm sure some of them will decide to brisket.

smile

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

187 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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2 pages in, and no one has posted the Harry Enfield public information film yet.

PH standards are slipping!

numtumfutunch

4,731 posts

139 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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I actually agree with the nutters

But they don't go far enough for me, women AND men should be banned from driving kids to school

Most primary school catchments are walkable, most secondary schools are on bus routes

Cheers

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

128 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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numtumfutunch said:
I actually agree with the nutters

But they don't go far enough for me, women AND men should be banned from driving kids to school

Most primary school catchments are walkable, most secondary schools are on bus routes

Cheers
The drive to and from work this week has been great, straight through with no problems, traffic not fast as it's London but still it's been flowing - I wondered what was going on. Then my missus told me it was half term and it would soon be back to crawling traffic as the parents block the roads again, dropping their obese offspring off at school frown

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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What's the point of having freedom of religion if people are not allowed to live by their beliefs?

As far as I can tell they're not going around harassing any woman driving a car, and people are free to leave this community, with the protection of the law. They're simply setting their own standards for their members.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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Chlamydia said:
numtumfutunch said:
I actually agree with the nutters

But they don't go far enough for me, women AND men should be banned from driving kids to school

Most primary school catchments are walkable, most secondary schools are on bus routes

Cheers
The drive to and from work this week has been great, straight through with no problems, traffic not fast as it's London but still it's been flowing - I wondered what was going on. Then my missus told me it was half term and it would soon be back to crawling traffic as the parents block the roads again, dropping their obese offspring off at school frown
Something like 10% of working people take time off during half-terms, so the lack of traffic isn't just down to the lack of school runs.

SS7

DuckDuck

459 posts

149 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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pops666tt said:
Shouldn't we all be going nuts.

Shouldn't the media hype be front page news.

Oh wait they're Jewish, not Muslim.

Now I understand.
This! ......this .......is exactly the point ......well put!

franki68

10,410 posts

222 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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DuckDuck said:
This! ......this .......is exactly the point ......well put!
No it isnt , it's not remotely the point.