Petrol theft is not a crime
Discussion
Scuffers said:
greygoose said:
Most Shell garages have the card pumps already, they are just out of order all the time to force you into the shop to try and tempt you to buy something else.
even when they work, you're usually limited to £50 and they give out no proper VAT receipts.xjsdriver said:
Derek Smith said:
I didn't know he was under threat. I know he's upset a few people.
His term of office ends in 2016 and it's reported that he's choosing to stand down.La Liga said:
xjsdriver said:
Derek Smith said:
I didn't know he was under threat. I know he's upset a few people.
His term of office ends in 2016 and it's reported that he's choosing to stand down.Jasandjules said:
MarshPhantom said:
Garages have done precisely nothing to prevent this.
Shops go to huge lengths to prevent crime, security tagging, security staff etc.
xjsdriver said:
La Liga said:
xjsdriver said:
Derek Smith said:
I didn't know he was under threat. I know he's upset a few people.
His term of office ends in 2016 and it's reported that he's choosing to stand down.The "paramilitary" comment is also laughable. Paramilitary = one of the handful of routinely unarmed countries in the world. That doesn't quite work.
La Liga said:
The "paramilitary" comment is also laughable. Paramilitary = one of the handful of routinely unarmed countries in the world. That doesn't quite work.
Elroy Blue said:
There was a couple of photos of ARV Officers (shock horror) assisting at incidents. (As they do all over the country). Whipped up into hysteria by the local media, they are now a Paramilitary force. Totally laughable.
Totally O/T. I was genuinely surprised (close to shocked) to see armed (side arms) police using a service station to stock up on nibbles and coffee.Clawing back O/T. I'd like to have seen the face of a petrol thief at that service station if they responded
.Police Officer buying food shocker!
Overt ARVs have been on the streets for years. I think the fact you weren't aware of them shows how well they are used and deployed.
But they are Police Officers first and ARV second. Expecting them to ignore something happening in front of them like certain Scottish media did was ridiculous.
Overt ARVs have been on the streets for years. I think the fact you weren't aware of them shows how well they are used and deployed.
But they are Police Officers first and ARV second. Expecting them to ignore something happening in front of them like certain Scottish media did was ridiculous.
Matt Harper said:
So what is the objection to the very simple remedy of payment at the pump with a card or cash in advance in the shop?
At all of our local Shell garages they have pay at pump but it's either broken or there is a £50 or £60 maximum (which I don't understand) - either way I always forget because if you don't choose an option it just starts dispensing and assumes you'll pay in the shop.I can't think why it should be a problem other than perhaps adding a bit of a delay.
I don't see how the police can say they don't want to look at incidents unless there is proof of dishonesty like false or removed number plates.
I couldn't pay for petrol myself recently. It was just one of those things... started petrol flowing into the tank then had an 'oh s
t' moment and realised I'd not lifted my wallet. I let the fuel keep going up to 30 euros then went in and told the bloke in the petrol station. No problem, come back pay it later.
But if I'd just drove off, why shouldn't he report it even though my plates were real? I could have forgot to pay in one specific petrol station, once. But I couldn't have forgotten in 8 different petrol stations over the last month. Surely the police need to work out who's the serial offenders and deal with them in one go?
I couldn't pay for petrol myself recently. It was just one of those things... started petrol flowing into the tank then had an 'oh s
t' moment and realised I'd not lifted my wallet. I let the fuel keep going up to 30 euros then went in and told the bloke in the petrol station. No problem, come back pay it later.But if I'd just drove off, why shouldn't he report it even though my plates were real? I could have forgot to pay in one specific petrol station, once. But I couldn't have forgotten in 8 different petrol stations over the last month. Surely the police need to work out who's the serial offenders and deal with them in one go?
Matt Harper said:
So what is the objection to the very simple remedy of payment at the pump with a card or cash in advance in the shop?
No objection here it's faster for a start. I imagine the owner would prefer me going inside to buy other things though so it's a bit of a dilemma for them. BoRED S2upid said:
No objection here it's faster for a start. I imagine the owner would prefer me going inside to buy other things though so it's a bit of a dilemma for them.
Sure, I imagine the owner would. I do wonder what the difference is between UK and US though. In US we have pay at pump - or pay in advance at the desk - and a fairly substantial grocery store (7-Eleven, Racetrac, Wawa and the like) - all of which seem to do quite well - though perhaps the ability to sell beer/wine and RedBox DVD's helps.Would making it not necessary to walk into the shop have a significant effect on business?
Our biggest threat now is card skimmers that are either attached to or embedded in gas pumps. I never use pumps on the end of the station's islands or pumps that are not in line of sight of the desk. Interestingly card fraud perpetrated by gas station employees is in serious decline here too, as victims may sue the business as well as the employee, which seems to have encouraged more diligence in hiring of staff (background checks, drug testing etc).
Matt Harper said:
Interestingly card fraud perpetrated by gas station employees is in serious decline here too, as victims may sue the business as well as the employee, which seems to have encouraged more diligence in hiring of staff (background checks, drug testing etc).
I think the Shell fiasco kind of highlighted this to some extent..http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4980190.stm
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