Charles Kennedy RIP

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glazbagun

14,280 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Still sad about this. I remember feeling he'd been stabbed in the back somewhat when he was pushed as party leader, but it seems his alcoholism was a much bigger problem than I'd realised. RIP to one of the few politicians I would be happy to buy a pint for. His opinion of the coalition's effect on the Lib Dems seems to have been prophetic.

Strocky said:
If only Salmond had shown some class and said something along the lines of "Charles Kennedy was by far the most generous person I have ever met in politics. Sad loss of a great politician and, above all, a great man."

Really let himself down with his tirade
Where can I find AS comments in full, does anyone know? The above spectator article has the largest quote I've been able to find- google mostly throws up opinion articles ripping into AS for being the crassness personified.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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glazbagun said:
his alcoholism was a much bigger problem than I'd realised. RIP to one of the few politicians I would be happy to buy a pint for.


yikes

rohrl

8,738 posts

146 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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A nice tribute from Steve Bell.

carinaman

21,310 posts

173 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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@jayrayner1 has retweeted a photo of a letter from Charles Kennedy.

As we're discussing a decent politician I shouldn't perhaps mention that anyone checking Jay Rayner's Twitter stream for that letter from Charles Kennedy may want to scroll down to 28 May 2015.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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It's gone I think?

carinaman

21,310 posts

173 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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image from Twitter Phil Lucas ?@PhilLucas 19 Jul 2012

Phil Lucas on Twitter posted 'Years ago I wrote to Charles Kennedy & asked him who his favourite muppet was. I've just found his reply. A lovely man'

Edited by carinaman at on Wednesday 3rd June to add the Twitter caption on the Tweet by Phil Lucas.


Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 3rd June 17:27

g4ry13

16,998 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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carinaman said:


image from Twitter Phil Lucas ?@PhilLucas 19 Jul 2012

Phil Lucas on Twitter posted 'Years ago I wrote to Charles Kennedy & asked him who his favourite muppet was. I've just found his reply. A lovely man'

Edited by carinaman at on Wednesday 3rd June to add the Twitter caption on the Tweet by Phil Lucas.


Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 3rd June 17:27
That letter's signed on his behalf, not by him. I'm not sure if the politicians ever sign their own letters, I am sure they would. That's not to say that he didn't dictate the letter or give permission to compose a response.

Blib

44,169 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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At the bottom is written that he dictated it.

daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Why do we really bother to do anything in this life, when someone like that, educated, determined, a 'go getter' just pops his clogs at 55. It will happen to us all as well give or take 20-30 years.......Really, what's the deal ? And don't start on religion and all that guff.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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daytona365 said:
Why do we really bother to do anything in this life, when someone like that, educated, determined, a 'go getter' just pops his clogs at 55. It will happen to us all as well give or take 20-30 years.......Really, what's the deal ? And don't start on religion and all that guff.
Conversely, if we weren't going to die, there would be no point in doing anything, because we could always do it later!

glazbagun

14,280 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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daytona365 said:
Why do we really bother to do anything in this life, when someone like that, educated, determined, a 'go getter' just pops his clogs at 55. It will happen to us all as well give or take 20-30 years.......Really, what's the deal ? And don't start on religion and all that guff.
Because sometimes you get on top and feel like you've won at life, and that feels pretty damn awesome!

Saw this post recently by Kevin Smith (director and awesome story teller) on the anniversary of his Dad's death, thought it was pretty decent:
kevinsmith said:
12 years ago from right now, I put my Mom and Dad into a cab in Philadelphia and said goodnight. I had no idea I was actually saying goodbye to Dad. He died six hours later. It was bad.

However, before I put him in that cab? We'd all had dinner together at Morton's: Mom, Dad, my sister Virginia, her husband Eric, my brother Donald, my wife Jen and me. My Dad's last meal was hearty as fk: filet mignon, cheesecake and a couple Manhattan's. He spent hours at the table, listening to his adult kids telling stories and laughing. He was happy as fk: he'd won at life. Then he died. Nobody wants to leave this best of all possible worlds - but if you gotta go? At least go with a gut full of good food and a heart full of the love for a family you built with your best friend.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

185 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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He was a good bloke taken too soon, I didn't always agree with his politics but he treated others with respect and should be shown respect, regardless of the cause of his death

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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twitter said:
Press Association ‏@PA 8 mins8 minutes ago

  1. Breaking Former Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy died from "major haemorrhage" due to his alcoholism, his family say

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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You know, I don't really care how he died.

RIP Charlie boy.

carinaman

21,310 posts

173 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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I watched QT and This Week lastnight.

I'm not sure how I feel about Susie Boniface making it about how drink kills so much talent, 1 in 10 men and 1 in 20 women.

I'm not sure what to make of Portillo's expression after Dianne Abbott spoke about Kennedy's wife and son in Parliament.

I found the bits of Charles Kennedy that This Week played better than Alastair Campbell's blog on him. Kennedy wasn't here long enough to see the Chilcot Inquiry released. I'm sure it'll be out soon.

Riley Blue

20,973 posts

227 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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An appropriate tribute on HIGNFY last night.

carinaman

21,310 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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Riley Blue said:
An appropriate tribute on HIGNFY last night.
Thank you, I'll take a look on iplayer.

Seems Twitter is trending a Daily Mail piece on how Kennedy was abused online and in the street.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05y1bvv/have...

Just a couple of clips of him on the show towards the end.

Edited by Axionknight on Saturday 6th June 14:45

sun.and.rain

1,649 posts

140 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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BlackLabel said:
twitter said:
Press Association ?@PA 8 mins8 minutes ago

  1. Breaking Former Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy died from "major haemorrhage" due to his alcoholism, his family say
RIP Charles. Hope you're enjoying an eternal full glass.

What sort of consumption is required to do this amount of damage?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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It depends on the person and their health in general I guess, but prolonged periods of alcoholism greatly increases the risk of such an issue occurring - whether it was one boozing session that caused it, or the culmination of many is something we probably won't find out but I'd say it is safe to say he'd had far, far more than his fair share.