Another Tunisian Attack - Sousse

[dirk01]

eharding said:

don4l said:

I was just pointing out that the Islamists seem to have industrialised murder. They seem to be able to kill far more innocent civilians on a daily basis than any other terrorist group in history.

Conveniently overlooking the entire 20th century there, Don.

Islam didn't have a hand in the First World War, Stalin's terror, the Second World War, or the Great Leap Forward - anywhere between 150 to 190 *million* dead - and during the Cold War we were quite prepared to exterminate everyone else on the planet

ISIS/ISIL and their hangers-on are a nasty bunch of psychopaths, but compared to the damage the non-Muslim population has managed to inflict on itself over the past century, they're insignificant.

He's also overlooked the 21st century: Iraq (1 and 2); Afghanistan; Libya
You can accuse IS of many things, being abhorrent amongst them, but industrialised killing is really the invention and core skill of the "christian" west. Whether or not you think that is justifiable depends on your viewpoint, but the west have certainly industrialised it

[AJL308]

eharding said:

Conveniently overlooking the entire 20th century there, Don.

Islam didn't have a hand in the First World War, Stalin's terror, the Second World War, or the Great Leap Forward - anywhere between 150 to 190 *million* dead - and during the Cold War we were quite prepared to exterminate everyone else on the planet

ISIS/ISIL and their hangers-on are a nasty bunch of psychopaths, but compared to the damage the non-Muslim population has managed to inflict on itself over the past century, they're insignificant.

Yes, but it's Muslims who are causing the vast majority of the problem today. And Today is what matters today.

[Boosted LS1]

AJL308 said:

Yes, but it's Muslims who are causing the vast majority of the problem today. And Today is what matters today.

Nail head. Islam has never 'grown up' or developed and is still a third world religion for third world people. ISIS Islam is a whole new ball game. ISIS sets out to display it's butchery in the media. If you look at a swedish anti-islam site you'll see things far to stomach churning for the british media. They treat people the same way as they slaughter they're animals.

[Mermaid]

Boosted LS1 said:

Nail head. Islam has never 'grown up' or developed and is still a third world religion for third world people.

Well past its before date, not healthy. IS is the showroom, but there is warehouse that is underground and does not want itself identified.

[oyster]

AJL308 said:

Axionknight said:

What about the decent ones?

Where are they though? This goes to the whole thrust of this thread; if there are so many tens of millions of 'decent' Muslims in the World then why aren't they protesting these acts and ostracising the terrorists?

Listen, save your keyboard. It's quite clear that no statement can meet your expectation. Nothing will ever be good enough for you.

It's right to be angry of course, but get angry at the real cause.

[AJL308]

oyster said:

Listen, save your keyboard. It's quite clear that no statement can meet your expectation. Nothing will ever be good enough for you.

It's right to be angry of course, but get angry at the real cause.

The 'real' cause, if you apply the evidence, appears to be Islam and the brain dead sheep that seem to follow it.

[anonymous-user]

zygalski said:

JensenA said:

We stop,pussy footing around trying not to offend Muslims in case were classed as racist.
Stop 'importing' extreme foreign Mullahs to preach in the mosques, let's have some moderate British born and raised Mullahs instead, ones who believe in this religion of peace, and preach peace and tolerance,
Ban the wearing of hijabs and Burkas, this is 21st century Britain, not a medieval 3rd world sthole that treats women as second class citizens. If they don't like it, then they don't have to come here, in the same way that I don't want to go and live in a strict Muslim country.
In this country we have Sikhs, Buddhists, Jews, Christians, Catholics, Jehovas Witnesses, you name it they are here, and we have no problems at all with any of them.

How exactly does that stop the beach massacre of largely British tourists going to a welcoming country like Tunisia that has a few lone wolf nut job terrorists?
You're not dealing with the problem. Your view seems very short-sighted.

BingoBingoBingo! "Lone Wolf nut jobs." ISIS have claimed responsibility. That's a st load of lone wolves.

[968]

AJL308 said:

The 'real' cause, if you apply the evidence, appears to be Islam and the brain dead sheep that seem to follow it.

The brain dead sheep who are slaughtered on a daily basis in many countries in the world, that are an irrelevance here?

[rich85uk]

Thankyou4calling said:

I've not read the thread but wondered if this would put people off travelling to Sousse?

It wouldn't deter me in the slightest.

To put it bluntly it would put me off going on holiday to any Muslim country at the moment, Morocco Turkey Egypt etc are ideal for terrorists to target. People will argue they are safe and not under threat but wasn't that long ago people were saying that about Tunisia, Islamic state pose a huge threat in the Middle East

[Fantic SuperT]

eharding said:

Conveniently overlooking the entire 20th century there, Don.
Islam didn't have a hand in the First World War, Stalin's terror, the Second World War, or the Great Leap Forward - anywhere between 150 to 190 *million* dead - and during the Cold War we were quite prepared to exterminate everyone else on the planet
ISIS/ISIL and their hangers-on are a nasty bunch of psychopaths, but compared to the damage the non-Muslim population has managed to inflict on itself over the past century, they're insignificant.

Apart from the three Muslim SS divisions who wanted to do their bit to help exterminate all Jews.

[HIS LM]

So we can "find" 600 police to send to Tunisia - but we can't deal with the lorry loads of illegals arriving from Calais unchecked

Arrange the following into a well know English phrase horse, stable and door

What a fekkin joke

[-crookedtail-]

HIS LM said:

So we can "find" 600 police to send to Tunisia - but we can't deal with the lorry loads of illegals arriving from Calais unchecked

Arrange the following into a well know English phrase horse, stable and door

What a fekkin joke

To be honest I wouldn't call it a joke to think that resources should be used to help our fellow citizens, murdered on the beach to come back home. Whilst I agree there is an issue in Calais, it is still the French that need to do the most to get rid of them, they aren't across the border yet.

[blindswelledrat]

HIS LM said:

So we can "find" 600 police to send to Tunisia - but we can't deal with the lorry loads of illegals arriving from Calais unchecked

Arrange the following into a well know English phrase horse, stable and door

What a fekkin joke

Or a joke, perhaps, that you think that people in lorries are more important that British victims of a massacre stranded abroad.
Idiot.

[Boydie88]

968 said:

The brain dead sheep who are slaughtered on a daily basis in many countries in the world, that are an irrelevance here?

Is it not sunni vs shia? Although, both known as Muslims, they aren't fond of each other it would seem so to put them together and just say ISIS are slaughtering themselves, is just wrong.

[Fishtigua]

Stop spending any money with them. Don't buy their oil, fly on their airlines or spend a holiday on their beach.

The only thing the Muslim world gets is cash, it's not about religion, it's all about a money/power grab. Without the money, Arabia couldn't flush a turd.

[968]

Boydie88 said:

Is it not sunni vs shia? Although, both known as Muslims, they aren't fond of each other it would seem so to put them together and just say ISIS are slaughtering themselves, is just wrong.

No, it isn't just sunni vs shia. It's extremely complex with different tribes/sects fighting against Isis, not just Shias. Apart from anything else Shia's are Muslim too. The countries most affected by terrorist atrocities like Pakistan and Afghanistan are largely Sunni Muslim countries.

[PoleDriver]

Fishtigua said:

Stop spending any money with them. Don't buy their oil,

So which company can we buy oil/petrol from, safe in the knowledge it didn't come from a muslim country?

[Mermaid]

968 said:

The countries most affected by terrorist atrocities like Pakistan and Afghanistan are largely Sunni Muslim countries.

That is infighting between the two, both just happen to be Sunni. Corrupt governments in both.

[Mermaid]

CMD sounding feisty... sounds like a war coming up.

Should have supported Assad, still not too late. Secular country, as was Iraq.

[Eric Mc]

Mermaid said:

Should have supported Assad, still not too late. Secular country, as was Iraq.

Yes - they were lovely places before all this Islamic stuff broke out.