NBC to Donald Trump : You're Fired
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NicD said:
I don't like DT anymore than the next person.
he is reported as saying
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said. "They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
so that is 7 points.
so if the rapist thing isn't true (I have no idea, or interest in researching this, that makes 6 of 7 points seem to have some basis in fact
why not answer the question I posted where a poster equated the comments with xenophobia?
Of course the criminal gangs need to be dealt with and the Mexican government needs to be a part of that. But the vast majority of people crossing are desperate people risking their lives to cross a border so that they can make a few dollars to send home to their impoverished kinfolk. They commit very little crime, commit very little if any rape and don't carry drugs apart from those that are coming for the purpose of transporting drugs, which is very few. Most of them have one big problem, they are starving, which makes them a very motivated workforce.he is reported as saying
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said. "They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
so that is 7 points.
so if the rapist thing isn't true (I have no idea, or interest in researching this, that makes 6 of 7 points seem to have some basis in fact
why not answer the question I posted where a poster equated the comments with xenophobia?
I live a very long way from the southern border but just about every person I see tending lawns or framing houses or roofing or painting or landscaping or doing countless other jobs is hispanic. They work bloody hard and do the jobs that need doing and we need them to do those jobs. We need to make it easier for them to come here and do it legally rather than concentrating on building walls or fences to appease the paranoia of the rabid right.
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Disastrous said:
Pathetic, cliched nonsense worthy of Alf Garnett. Oh, sorry: 
You're probably to stupid to realise it, but "Till death do us part." was a parody.Axel987 said:
Why dont you open your arms and house to a couple of Calais refugees then ? IF we are all being a bunch of racists. clearly they are running for their lives.
I wish all left-wing goody-two-shoers would actually foot their own taxed money and open their own bedrooms for once. I bet the flute would sing quite a different tune suddenly.
Like Margaret Thatcher said - "The trouble with left wing socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money "
Are you speaking as a Norwegian or Britain? It effects my understanding of the demography of racist attitudes I wish all left-wing goody-two-shoers would actually foot their own taxed money and open their own bedrooms for once. I bet the flute would sing quite a different tune suddenly.
Like Margaret Thatcher said - "The trouble with left wing socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money "
PS I'm gay. xxxxxxx.
Edited by so called on Tuesday 30th June 23:48
anonymous said:
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I live in a suburb of Detroit. There is a lot of unemployment in Detroit and fortunately there is a lot of seasonal tourism work in towns on Lake Michigan. However, in many places it is difficult to fill those jobs and they are having to bring students in from abroad to fill those positions. This was reported in Crain's Detroit Business. Watching the news, I know there is a lot of call for people to harvest crops and they have to resort to having non-US workers do this yet there is unemployment in those states at a level where the jobs could be filled locally. The only reasonable assumption is that people just don't think it's worth their while to work, because the gain is too marginal.GavinPearson said:
I live in a suburb of Detroit. There is a lot of unemployment in Detroit and fortunately there is a lot of seasonal tourism work in towns on Lake Michigan. However, in many places it is difficult to fill those jobs and they are having to bring students in from abroad to fill those positions. This was reported in Crain's Detroit Business. Watching the news, I know there is a lot of call for people to harvest crops and they have to resort to having non-US workers do this yet there is unemployment in those states at a level where the jobs could be filled locally. The only reasonable assumption is that people just don't think it's worth their while to work, because the gain is too marginal.
perhaps low paid, seasonal, unpredictable work, out of town, with commute costs etc, accompanied by the loss of any support they may receive, makes it not viable.perhaps by the time they lose any welfare benefits they receive, pay to commute there etc, they would be making a loss
its a complicated issue... its not as simple as "the feckless do not want to work" and that migrants are "hard working and prepared to do any job"
you may even say it shows how desperate migrants are that they are exploited in low paid unpredictable work, with poor living and working conditions. Perhaps a more intelligent, well thought out policy, and better economics, would foster opportunities for local people who can earn a living wage with predictable work that offers security and progression.
It looks like Macy's are now also seriously considering "severing ties" with The Donald after 700,000 customers signed a petition. I think they're pretty much the only place you can buy his crappy ties and shirts so that won't please him. Of course he'll threaten to "sue" them as he is threatening to "sue" NBC. What a total arse. His brand (that he described as the biggest brand in the world 
) is becoming completely toxic. He reminds me in many ways of the late and completely unlamented Cap'n Bob Maxwell who also had a very high opinion of himself, used to bluster and bully and had aspirations of political grandeur. Does Trump have a boat?
) is becoming completely toxic. He reminds me in many ways of the late and completely unlamented Cap'n Bob Maxwell who also had a very high opinion of himself, used to bluster and bully and had aspirations of political grandeur. Does Trump have a boat?anonymous said:
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Not so fast.....Temporary residents in the US (i.e. everybody on a 'letter' visa e.g. L1A, L1B, H1A, H1B, etc do not get any benefits. If they lose their job the law requires them to leave the country. So your immigrant has to have a work ethic, because without it they're in rather hot water if things go wrong, but then again it was that ethic that led them to move abroad in the first place, so they should be OK.
Personally I would like it if unemployment was treated like a job - you need to show up every day to get paid. A lot of blighted areas could be beautified and people could develop good basic job skills that would enable them to work in private employment.
Macy's have dumped him! NY mayor Bill De Blasio is also "looking into" the city's relationship with him and has said that Trump's values don't match up with those of the city. Farouk System, NBC, Televisa, Univision and now Macy's have binned him and the City he claims as his own is trying to distance itself from him. He's now so toxic that you can smell the bridges burning behind him.
How's this joke campaign going so far Don?
http://news.yahoo.com/macys-dumps-donald-trump-ove...
How's this joke campaign going so far Don?
http://news.yahoo.com/macys-dumps-donald-trump-ove...
unrepentant said:
Macy's have dumped him! NY mayor Bill De Blasio is also "looking into" the city's relationship with him and has said that Trump's values don't match up with those of the city. Farouk System, NBC, Televisa, Univision and now Macy's have binned him and the City he claims as his own is trying to distance itself from him. He's now so toxic that you can smell the bridges burning behind him.
How's this joke campaign going so far Don?
http://news.yahoo.com/macys-dumps-donald-trump-ove...
I buy clothes at Macy's and the last time I was in there I walked right past the Trump offerings and looked at clothing by clothing manufacturers.How's this joke campaign going so far Don?
http://news.yahoo.com/macys-dumps-donald-trump-ove...
Macy's would have been far better off IMHO by doing nothing, just letting the consumer vote with their wallet. They don't seem to be doing too well at the moment and the last thing they need is a vendor suing them.
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