Time to dump France
Discussion
schmunk said:
dandarez said:
Amazing how many people (PHs) don't know or realise this. Birthplace of British Motor Racing, and no, not Brooklands. It's on the south coast and was the first 'serious' motor racing to take place on these shores. Of course, Brooklands devotees don't like this, because it is like history being rewritten. I even had discussion with WB about it. But the records are there. It's now undisputed. And as for people spectating (over 4 days) but it was the Whit Monday - or Whitsantide as it was called then - that the crowds came. How's a crowd of 30,000 sound!
Still none the wiser?
Bexhill - Leon SerpolletStill none the wiser?
What a strange, pedantic, thing to bring to this topic.
eharding said:
stuart313 said:
Maybe, just maybe its the only paper to tell the truth.
You're right, however, to take question with jjlynn27's 'cretin' designation.
If that really is your understanding of the Daily Mail, then 'cretin' is a status you can only aspire to, but sadly never attain.
But if you want to read a real f*cktards newspaper try the Guardian, Now that really is a cretins rag.
I always wondered why the EU was not based more on an Anglo German set up. than the Franco German set up that exists at present.
It would seem we have more in common with the Germans, than the French do, and being the second largest net contributor into the EU, it would be more a case of, It is those who pay the piper should call the tune.
Even after the first world war it was the Brits, who believed the sanctions being applied too Germany (Mainly by the French) were too harsh, and would lead to further conflict (which it did).
Watching Adolf Galland and other WW2 fighter pilots being interviewed, they all maintained that the British pilots and planes were the ones they feared and respected most.
A German WW1 general even claimed that the British army was, an army of lions (lead by donkey`s)
So an Anglo German alliance would `seem' to be a more natural pairing, than the current Franco German one. Just a thought.
It would seem we have more in common with the Germans, than the French do, and being the second largest net contributor into the EU, it would be more a case of, It is those who pay the piper should call the tune.
Even after the first world war it was the Brits, who believed the sanctions being applied too Germany (Mainly by the French) were too harsh, and would lead to further conflict (which it did).
Watching Adolf Galland and other WW2 fighter pilots being interviewed, they all maintained that the British pilots and planes were the ones they feared and respected most.
A German WW1 general even claimed that the British army was, an army of lions (lead by donkey`s)
So an Anglo German alliance would `seem' to be a more natural pairing, than the current Franco German one. Just a thought.
It was German liberal war guilt and French Stockholm syndrome basically. Don't forget that as well as WW1 and WW2, France was also invaded (successfully) by the recently-formed Germany in 1870. We sat that one out because the Germans wisely left Belgium alone that time.
Few people know that during WW1, France and Britain became tightly integrated for the common war effort. French economist & diplomat (and later EU founder) Jean Monnet was a driving force for that integration and co-operation. He came over here again in 1939 to do the same thing, but France collapsed before that could really bear fruit.
Monnet knew the British well enough to know that we'd never agree to his European superstate dream and would insist on irritating distractions like democratic accountability & it just being a trading block. So he and other federalists made sure that the terms to join would put off the British from getting in at the start. Thus the bureaucratic, anti-democratic cluster-f
k we see today.
Few people know that during WW1, France and Britain became tightly integrated for the common war effort. French economist & diplomat (and later EU founder) Jean Monnet was a driving force for that integration and co-operation. He came over here again in 1939 to do the same thing, but France collapsed before that could really bear fruit.
Monnet knew the British well enough to know that we'd never agree to his European superstate dream and would insist on irritating distractions like democratic accountability & it just being a trading block. So he and other federalists made sure that the terms to join would put off the British from getting in at the start. Thus the bureaucratic, anti-democratic cluster-f
k we see today.Willy Nilly said:
williamp said:
Just a shame they cannot claim asylum in france. Anyone know the reason why they can only do this in Uk?
They aren't seeking asylum, they are economic migrants It was screaming out for her to name the country, but sadly the punchline France never came.
They do seem to look after their interests first.
An irate UK truck driver, drove to the Calais dock workers union office, and blocked the access to their premises with his truck. Preventing them from driving into or out of the car park.
They became quite angry at this, an threatened the UK driver with violence.
When this did not work, they, (and this is the funny bit) called the police to get the blockade removed, which the French policey duly did.
I wonder if the port workers understood the irony of their actions, or why others might wonder why the French police, if they could get the blockade in this instance moved out of the way, cannot do the same at Calais, and the channel tunnel?
Just a thought.
An irate UK truck driver, drove to the Calais dock workers union office, and blocked the access to their premises with his truck. Preventing them from driving into or out of the car park.
They became quite angry at this, an threatened the UK driver with violence.
When this did not work, they, (and this is the funny bit) called the police to get the blockade removed, which the French policey duly did.
I wonder if the port workers understood the irony of their actions, or why others might wonder why the French police, if they could get the blockade in this instance moved out of the way, cannot do the same at Calais, and the channel tunnel?
Just a thought.
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