Brink’s-MAT / Spinal Tap Drummer Syndrome.
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It appears that another individual associated with the Brink's-MAT bullion malarky has suffered a high-velocity-lead-poisoning gardening accident.
Murder hunt launched after death of infamous criminal John 'Goldfinger' Palmer
It does seem odd that the initial police description of his demise was due to 'natural causes', and only now it transpires that he was shot in the chest.
Are the original rozzers who decided this was a peaceful demise due to natural causes still on the case?
Murder hunt launched after death of infamous criminal John 'Goldfinger' Palmer
It does seem odd that the initial police description of his demise was due to 'natural causes', and only now it transpires that he was shot in the chest.
Are the original rozzers who decided this was a peaceful demise due to natural causes still on the case?
eharding said:
It appears that another individual associated with the Brink's-MAT bullion malarky has suffered a high-velocity-lead-poisoning gardening accident.
Murder hunt launched after death of infamous criminal John 'Goldfinger' Palmer
It does seem odd that the initial police description of his demise was due to 'natural causes', and only now it transpires that he was shot in the chest.
Are the original rozzers who decided this was a peaceful demise due to natural causes still on the case?
lol, I did wonder the same! Murder hunt launched after death of infamous criminal John 'Goldfinger' Palmer
It does seem odd that the initial police description of his demise was due to 'natural causes', and only now it transpires that he was shot in the chest.
Are the original rozzers who decided this was a peaceful demise due to natural causes still on the case?
No doubt the PR machine is to blame, whoever said natural causes was probably assuming = bad.
It just surprises me that anyone is even remotely surprised about this. The amount of coincidences, errors and unfortunate deaths to do with this crime, is clearly just proof of the Brinks-Mat curse and nothing at all to do with a bunch of loveable rogues who bought their Mums flowers every Tuesday, gave a lot to charity and never once nailed anyone's head to a coffee table.
I mean this terrible mistake clearly had nothing to do with the giving the person who did it enough time to leave the country and certainly was not done to make sure that any possible witness statements could be de-railed in court. Nothing to do with either of those possible scenarios.
And I'm sure this dreadful crime against this upstanding member of the local community had nothing to do with the unlikely idea that given his now revealed heart condition and his upcoming trial in Spain which could have seen him dying in prison, he was about to cut a deal that would lower his sentence by revealing information that would possibly embarrass some authorities and give other people who are just about to go before the parole board themselves, a serious problem.
Nothing to do with that. At all.
I mean this terrible mistake clearly had nothing to do with the giving the person who did it enough time to leave the country and certainly was not done to make sure that any possible witness statements could be de-railed in court. Nothing to do with either of those possible scenarios.
And I'm sure this dreadful crime against this upstanding member of the local community had nothing to do with the unlikely idea that given his now revealed heart condition and his upcoming trial in Spain which could have seen him dying in prison, he was about to cut a deal that would lower his sentence by revealing information that would possibly embarrass some authorities and give other people who are just about to go before the parole board themselves, a serious problem.
Nothing to do with that. At all.
eccles said:
The mind boggles how you can confuse natural causes with being shot in the chest!
Telegraph article said:
A force spokesman told the Daily Mirror: ''Police and paramedics who attended the scene initially assessed the death as non-suspicious due to pre-existing injuries due to recent surgery. Closer inspection raised doubt and a post-mortem was conducted to establish the cause of death.''
Very possible that the paramedic saw bandages/blood and assumed that there had been post operation complications, it's only during the post-mortem that they found the gunshot wound? Not so much incompetent police as unusual wound circumstances leading to the wrong approach being taken (but that would not make the story half as interesting to the journos would it).tangerine_sedge said:
Very possible that the paramedic saw bandages/blood and assumed that there had been post operation complications, it's only during the post-mortem that they found the gunshot wound? Not so much incompetent police as unusual wound circumstances leading to the wrong approach being taken (but that would not make the story half as interesting to the journos would it).
"[A] former Metropolitan Police chief [said] that the force had been "utterly incompetent".John O'Connor told The Sun: "It's one of the most terrible mistakes in policing I've ever heard of."
John O'Connor is a former Commander of the Flying Squad so it's possibly fair to assume he knows what he's talking about.
rohrl said:
"[A] former Metropolitan Police chief [said] that the force had been "utterly incompetent".
John O'Connor told The Sun: "It's one of the most terrible mistakes in policing I've ever heard of."
John O'Connor is a former Commander of the Flying Squad so it's possibly fair to assume he knows what he's talking about.
And leader of the resistanceJohn O'Connor told The Sun: "It's one of the most terrible mistakes in policing I've ever heard of."
John O'Connor is a former Commander of the Flying Squad so it's possibly fair to assume he knows what he's talking about.
The Hypno-Toad said:
It just surprises me that anyone is even remotely surprised about this. The amount of coincidences, errors and unfortunate deaths to do with this crime, is clearly just proof of the Brinks-Mat curse and nothing at all to do with a bunch of loveable rogues who bought their Mums flowers every Tuesday, gave a lot to charity and never once nailed anyone's head to a coffee table.
I mean this terrible mistake clearly had nothing to do with the giving the person who did it enough time to leave the country and certainly was not done to make sure that any possible witness statements could be de-railed in court. Nothing to do with either of those possible scenarios.
And I'm sure this dreadful crime against this upstanding member of the local community had nothing to do with the unlikely idea that given his now revealed heart condition and his upcoming trial in Spain which could have seen him dying in prison, he was about to cut a deal that would lower his sentence by revealing information that would possibly embarrass some authorities and give other people who are just about to go before the parole board themselves, a serious problem.
Nothing to do with that. At all.
Disco.I mean this terrible mistake clearly had nothing to do with the giving the person who did it enough time to leave the country and certainly was not done to make sure that any possible witness statements could be de-railed in court. Nothing to do with either of those possible scenarios.
And I'm sure this dreadful crime against this upstanding member of the local community had nothing to do with the unlikely idea that given his now revealed heart condition and his upcoming trial in Spain which could have seen him dying in prison, he was about to cut a deal that would lower his sentence by revealing information that would possibly embarrass some authorities and give other people who are just about to go before the parole board themselves, a serious problem.
Nothing to do with that. At all.
He was silenced.
Oakey said:
Palmer had a lot of enemies though.
Was this case ever solved;http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/jan/26/spain.uk...
Magog said:
Dunno but there's more info on Palmer and his associates here:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jul/13/uk.te...
rohrl said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Very possible that the paramedic saw bandages/blood and assumed that there had been post operation complications, it's only during the post-mortem that they found the gunshot wound? Not so much incompetent police as unusual wound circumstances leading to the wrong approach being taken (but that would not make the story half as interesting to the journos would it).
"[A] former Metropolitan Police chief [said] that the force had been "utterly incompetent".John O'Connor told The Sun: "It's one of the most terrible mistakes in policing I've ever heard of."
John O'Connor is a former Commander of the Flying Squad so it's possibly fair to assume he knows what he's talking about.
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