BBC to axe 1000 jobs. Wheels are comming off....

BBC to axe 1000 jobs. Wheels are comming off....

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DUMBO100

1,878 posts

183 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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The BBC is an archaic old beast that suffers from an out of date "from the top down" management style, much like the newspapers. They don't have the agility of smaller companies to react and they forget that their customers move with the times so their content and delivery has to match that. I'll be sad to see it go but I think that their days are numbered

Vaud

50,289 posts

154 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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There is an awful arcane quality of things like this:

"The BBC has also stated that during the financial year 2013-14, a total of 41,483 blind concessionary (half-price) licences were issued in the UK of which 29 were blind concessionary black and white licences."

Given the lack of B&W tvs, why not just treat blind users like radio users and let them have it for free as a civic duty? Or a nominal £10?

Ali G

3,526 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Of course - this is a discussion about how the licence fee is abhorrent and the BBC is fundamentally biased (leftwards)

Leaving the licence fee to one side - and looking at the leftwards 'bias' - I am confused as to why Andrew Neil has an hour-long slot everyday under the heading of 'Daily Politics' on BBC2 between 12 and 1pm? Admittedly, I find this one of BBC's better programs (sad that I am)!

The better program to watch after 'Political Posturing Time' on a Thursday is 'This Week'(again Andrew Neil)

Sad that Paxo has now left Newsnight....

I am surprised that the BBC has permitted a Glaswegian and self-confessed Grammar School fan to have so much air-time.

I am unsurprised that I find much of what is aired (by Andrew Neil) to strike a chord with myself.

So - there may be 'balance' technically - but perhaps not in actuality.

edited to correct Newsweek to Newsnight t**t that I am

Edited by Ali G on Thursday 2nd July 20:45

Ali G

3,526 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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p.s Speelin in title perhaps?

williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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I think this is the bbc programme about venn diagrams everyone seems so annoyed with

Http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/clips/zhckq6f

Cant see the problem myself...


don4l

10,058 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Laurel Green said:
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Loss of Top Gear WW sales as well, perhaps?
Well,

BBC said:
The BBC is to cut 1,000 jobs because of a £150m budget gap in its licence fee income.
...now what was the estimated WW sales of TG?
£50M.

So, only 333 people have lost their jobs because of Clarkson's sacking.

The vast majority of these will be Guardian reading lefties who rejoiced at the departure of Clarkson.

Hopefully, they will feel that the loss of their £50,000 salary was a small price to pay for the greater good.


Laurel Green

30,770 posts

231 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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don4l said:
£50M.

So, only 333 people have lost their jobs because of Clarkson's sacking.

The vast majority of these will be Guardian reading lefties who rejoiced at the departure of Clarkson.

Hopefully, they will feel that the loss of their £50,000 salary was a small price to pay for the greater good.
Projection, projection, projection. wink

don4l

10,058 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
As I said, there is enough programming on BBC to allow you to avoid all those programmes you perceive to be biased against your point of view.

They produce a lot of stuff, you know.
I have almost stopped watching and listening to the BBC completely.

27 years ago, I discovered Radio 4. It was fantastic. The Today programme started my day.

About 7 years ago I started to notice the bias. However, I carried on listening until about two years ago. The Today programme has evolved into a full grown propoganda machine that is devoted to social engineering.

For example, a couple of days ago they had Lord Deben on to talk about climate change. During the interview, Deben said that Bangladesh would soon become uninhabitable due to rising sea levels. There would be 150M "Climate Refugees".

Any eejit knows that Bangladesh is a country that has been built on the alluvial plains of three great rivers. These rivers continue to deposit silt.

A couple of minutes on Google shows that Bangladesh is NOT disappearing under the waves. In fact, it has been expanding by 14 square kilometers a year over the last 30 years.

IMHO, Humphries is honest. However, I feel that he feels the pressure to toe the party line. Sad.

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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don4l said:
About 7 years ago
Probably at the point where Grumpy Old Man Syndrome kicks in.

ch108

1,127 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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One thing that I dont't understand is why the national and digital BBC radio stations all have their own newsreaders and bulletins? Surely they could have a central newsroom that broadcasts to all BBC radio stations on the hour. That would certainly cut down on costs and a few jobs.

BBC News 24 could run it. It would give them something to do instead of repeating the same news on TV every 15 minutes.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

207 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
don4l said:
About 7 years ago
Probably at the point where Grumpy Old Man Syndrome kicks in.
Was it 7 years ago when Radio 4 got rid of the proper music?

http://youtu.be/rF7kzj4lCnE

Edit: No link says that was 2006, sure it wasn't about 9 years ago?

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
don4l said:
About 7 years ago
Probably at the point where Grumpy Old Man Syndrome kicks in.
Probably not. It's about the BBC not anyone in this thread. No personal angle diversion with either mild abuse or weak humour can alter that.

Try defending the BBC instead, though I appreciate it hasn't worked in the past and how difficult that is when the corporation is so biased, wasteful and out-of-touch, with an unjustifiable and archaic funding mechanism that effectively compels a lot of people to part with their money.

Some people like the BBC and want to watch or listen to its propaganda, that's OK as long as they pay for it and others aren't forced to do so because they want to watch live broadcasts on other channels within the law.

For now it's good to see more than 1000 senior politicians' jobs being lost at the BBC, though it would be better to lose the licence fee and let the lot of them sink or swim in the real world.

eccles

13,720 posts

221 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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mikal83 said:
eccles said:
So no different to broadcast sport in general, accross all channels.
True.....BUT all the licence fee goes to the BBC
What point are you trying to make?
The BBC have to show sport in a different format to the rest because they are publicly funded?

JMGS4

8,733 posts

269 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Time to break up the BBC, keep good nature programmes from BBC Bristol as a separate earner, cut all the green AGW liars, and programmes that propagate it, reduce the amount of LGBT, disabled, coloured and labour supporting idiots (as these are overproportional and seems these are the only ones who get airtime nowadays anyway) and fire the top directors: that'll fill the 50 million hole easily.

All VERY tongue in cheek.......

Randy Winkman

16,021 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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LHRFlightman said:
NoNeed said:
It is to be expected, and to most of us welcomed.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberalde...


There is so much waste it really is unbelievable.
From the article, but don't let the facts get in the way of a headline eh?

BBC spokesman said: "We won’t be sending anywhere near 200 journalists, we’ve just registered plenty of names whilst it’s free so we don’t incur charges once we know who will actually be attending."
If there was no BBC, half the staff at the Telegraph would have nothing to do. Though I suppose they could just be diverted to anti-EU, Labour, Sharia-law, feminist teacher duties.

supersingle

3,205 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Randy Winkman said:
If there was no BBC, half the staff at the Telegraph would have nothing to do. Though I suppose they could just be diverted to anti-EU, Labour, Sharia-law, feminist teacher duties.
Nah, the Torygraph has gone quite hip and leftie nowadays. It changed hands and most of the old staff either left or were sacked. Circulation is still plummeting though wink

I miss the Radio 4 theme music but there's just no room for rousing patriotic stuff like that in our modern multi-culti society, someone might being offended.

The BBC, its days are numbered. If it survives it'll be paid for out of general taxation, that means being massively scaled back. The licence fee is dead.

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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turbobloke said:
Probably not. It's about the BBC not anyone in this thread. No personal angle diversion with either mild abuse or weak humour can alter that.

Try defending the BBC instead, though I appreciate it hasn't worked in the past and how difficult that is when the corporation is so biased, wasteful and out-of-touch, with an unjustifiable and archaic funding mechanism that effectively compels a lot of people to part with their money.

Some people like the BBC and want to watch or listen to its propaganda, that's OK as long as they pay for it and others aren't forced to do so because they want to watch live broadcasts on other channels within the law.

For now it's good to see more than 1000 senior politicians' jobs being lost at the BBC, though it would be better to lose the licence fee and let the lot of them sink or swim in the real world.
Gosh - you really are a cheery chap.

Sharted

2,615 posts

142 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Why is it that those supporting the BBC present themselves as articulate and thoughtful but those who oppose are the opposite?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Sharted said:
Why is it that those supporting the BBC present themselves as articulate and thoughtful but those who oppose are the opposite?
HTH

stuart313

740 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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The BBC could have changed and adapted as it needed to and cut down on the gross overspending like everyone else had to. But instead it tried to get its money with a campaign of fear and intimidation, unfortunately for them it didn't quite work out.