BBC to axe 1000 jobs. Wheels are comming off....
Discussion
Ali G said:
fblm said:
I love the posts that say; leave it as it is, I like the BBC and don't mind paying the license fee, it's only pennies a day. In other words I like it and I'm happy to pay for it so long as it's subsidised by everyone else.
Non sequitur
Smollet said:
Luke Warm said:
They made a complete hash of the Diamond Jubilee
Agreed. I thought I'd stumbled on CBBC by mistake.They used to do quality programmes (from my point of view), I don't they do so much now, despite receiving £143 per year from almost every single UK household with a TV
Edited by chris watton on Friday 3rd July 15:50
johnfm said:
technodup said:
NinjaPower said:
The BBC have never really had to worry about making a profit so they don't have to worry too much that Top Gear cost around £1 million per episode to make.
House of Cards and Orange is the New Black are $4m an episode. Both were highly rated although season 3 of OITNB is poor.Netflix made $71M (£42M) profit in the last quarter. That's quarter, not year. Why can people not see the BBC and its funding model is utterly f
ked? The U.S. TV production system and re revenue streams which underpin them are completely different.
The bulk of the additional U.S. Production costs go in extraordinarily high cast costs and writing /show runner fees and studio profit.
Writers and cast get paid much much much much less in the UK. Production companies make much less too.
It's by the by anyway. Between 1m fewer licence payers, ncreased competition, job cuts, channel cuts, charter renewal and noises from government the direction of travel is pretty clear.
truck71 said:
I must be a rare beast in that I am happy with the licence fee and feel the BBC largely does a good job. The uninterrupted programs are a relief from commercial TV, the radio is great and some of the BBC4 stuff is what only it can do well.
I can tolerate the lefties, BBC1, Radio1 etc by ignoring them and focusing on the bits I like. Bargain for me.
This is much better put than anything I was going to say. I'd like to add that I'd rather be nibbled to death by an okapi than give that disgusting walking disease over in sky any of my money. I can tolerate the lefties, BBC1, Radio1 etc by ignoring them and focusing on the bits I like. Bargain for me.
I predict that within a generation the BBC as we know it will have withered on the vine as the income from the licence fee dries up. Most people will stream everything and watch when they want to. The idea of having to sit down at a time determined by someone else to view a programme will seem archaic. Sure, PVRs give this now but you have to set the thing.
I'd love to know why they (the BBC) feel they need to rehabilitate offenders who are part of the establishment. Aitken got his turn, now it's Vicky Pryce - I can't believe there's no-one at least as well-qualified to pontificate about Greek economics who hasn't recently done time for lying to the beak. I'd love to know how many opportunities they offer to other offenders when they come out.
V8forweekends said:
I'd love to know why they (the BBC) feel they need to rehabilitate offenders who are part of the establishment. Aitken got his turn, now it's Vicky Pryce - I can't believe there's no-one at least as well-qualified to pontificate about Greek economics who hasn't recently done time for lying to the beak. I'd love to know how many opportunities they offer to other offenders when they come out.
I think part of the idea about prison is to rehabilitate offenders so they can be reintroduced to society. Part of that reintroduction would be to get a job. The alternative is a return to crime which no one wants. truck71 said:
V8forweekends said:
I'd love to know why they (the BBC) feel they need to rehabilitate offenders who are part of the establishment. Aitken got his turn, now it's Vicky Pryce - I can't believe there's no-one at least as well-qualified to pontificate about Greek economics who hasn't recently done time for lying to the beak. I'd love to know how many opportunities they offer to other offenders when they come out.
I think part of the idea about prison is to rehabilitate offenders so they can be reintroduced to society. Part of that reintroduction would be to get a job. The alternative is a return to crime which no one wants. johnfm said:
I like some of the BBC. Having worked in TV for a while there is plenty I don't like about how it is run and how much they spend and waste.
Way too many unsackable people moved sideways or, worse, up into roles paying a lot of money with no ultimate responsibility for success or failure and no way of measuring success or failure.
Do they need 3,000 cooking shows and 40,000 webpages with recipes on it?
Do they need to pay the likes of Jonathan Ross or Chris Evans or Jeremy Clarkson millions? No. They should be out discovering the next generation of those people and the. Let the commercial channel over pay them.
Amusing to hear the cuts will cut management layers down to 'just 7'. Laughable really.
Part of the problem is that for so long they have had billions per year to spend with no risk of it dwindling or disappearing due to bad decisions - so there is no fallout from sending so many people to Gladtonbury or similar.
I don't know what the solution may be - but I doubt they can continue to demand £4b a year and not put an end to the gravy train for many of their staff.
Very much agree with this.Way too many unsackable people moved sideways or, worse, up into roles paying a lot of money with no ultimate responsibility for success or failure and no way of measuring success or failure.
Do they need 3,000 cooking shows and 40,000 webpages with recipes on it?
Do they need to pay the likes of Jonathan Ross or Chris Evans or Jeremy Clarkson millions? No. They should be out discovering the next generation of those people and the. Let the commercial channel over pay them.
Amusing to hear the cuts will cut management layers down to 'just 7'. Laughable really.
Part of the problem is that for so long they have had billions per year to spend with no risk of it dwindling or disappearing due to bad decisions - so there is no fallout from sending so many people to Gladtonbury or similar.
I don't know what the solution may be - but I doubt they can continue to demand £4b a year and not put an end to the gravy train for many of their staff.
V8forweekends said:
I'd love to know why they (the BBC) feel they need to rehabilitate offenders who are part of the establishment. Aitken got his turn, now it's Vicky Pryce - I can't believe there's no-one at least as well-qualified to pontificate about Greek economics who hasn't recently done time for lying to the beak. I'd love to know how many opportunities they offer to other offenders when they come out.
Well don't let than Anglicised name fool you, she's actually Greek and by all accounts an extremely good economist (if there is such a thing). Plus, she was instrumental in bringing down that sack of **** Chris Huhne, for which the nation should forever be thankful. Beati Dogu said:
V8forweekends said:
I'd love to know why they (the BBC) feel they need to rehabilitate offenders who are part of the establishment. Aitken got his turn, now it's Vicky Pryce - I can't believe there's no-one at least as well-qualified to pontificate about Greek economics who hasn't recently done time for lying to the beak. I'd love to know how many opportunities they offer to other offenders when they come out.
Well don't let than Anglicised name fool you, she's actually Greek and by all accounts an extremely good economist (if there is such a thing). Plus, she was instrumental in bringing down that sack of **** Chris Huhne, for which the nation should forever be thankful. fblm said:
Ali G said:
fblm said:
I love the posts that say; leave it as it is, I like the BBC and don't mind paying the license fee, it's only pennies a day. In other words I like it and I'm happy to pay for it so long as it's subsidised by everyone else.
Non sequiturThe above is not a logical conclusion of whatever assertions you are trying to make.
And that is all!
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