BBC to axe 1000 jobs. Wheels are comming off....
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Cheese Mechanic said:
Absurd analogy .The BBC is not an essential service, its a media company, like dozens of others.
I believe it is set up to be used in case of a national emergency. I went to their video playout centre - it was built to be bomb proof.There was some talk about Radio 4 having to play the hour beeps (at Midday?) - nuclear submarines listen out for that? Not sure if it was true.
not sure if anyone is interested, here it is:
Today on Wikipedia said:
that a test that the commander of a British nuclear-missile submarine must use to determine whether the UK has been the target of a nuclear attack (in which case he has sealed orders which may authorise him to fire his nuclear missiles in retaliation), is to listen for the presence of Today on Radio 4's frequencies. If a certain number of days (said to be three) pass without the programme being broadcast, that is to be taken as evidence that the orders must be executed. The true conditions are of course secret, and Hennessy has never revealed his sources for this story, leading Paul Donovan, author of a book about Today, to express some scepticism about it.[23] However, the longwave signal of Radio 4 is capable of penetrating to surface depths where submarines can rise, although it does not have the range required to be heard at this depth far from the UK's coastal waters.
Edited by aclivity on Thursday 2nd July 15:53
Eric Mc said:
As I said, there is enough programming on BBC to allow you to avoid all those programmes you perceive to be biased against your point of view.
They produce a lot of stuff, you know.
Yes I can recall, painful as it is.They produce a lot of stuff, you know.
From the horse's mouth:
BBC left wing bias is not just in its news coverage it is in everything else that it does
Eric Mc said:
They wouldn't be able top do this without the current licence fee method of funding.
Excellent news. Scrap the licence fee asafp.turbobloke said:
I haven't watched any BBC TV or Radio output by choice for some time now.
There isn't a single thing I miss, and not having their constant propaganda emissions around is great, less information pollution and no earnest lefties droning on in support of the UN, EU, Labour, climate fairytales, etc. It had become like being forced to listen to somebody reading The Guardian out loud, which is actually pretty close to reality.
I am exactly the same!There isn't a single thing I miss, and not having their constant propaganda emissions around is great, less information pollution and no earnest lefties droning on in support of the UN, EU, Labour, climate fairytales, etc. It had become like being forced to listen to somebody reading The Guardian out loud, which is actually pretty close to reality.
As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
aclivity said:
There was some talk about Radio 4 having to play the hour beeps (at Midday?) - nuclear submarines listen out for that? Not sure if it was true.
So, the Beeb is essential to our armed forces, so they know what the time is, in case their own watches and electronics don't work?Laurel Green said:
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Loss of Top Gear WW sales as well, perhaps?
Well, BBC said:
The BBC is to cut 1,000 jobs because of a £150m budget gap in its licence fee income.
...now what was the estimated WW sales of TG?Google said:
Top Gear generates enormous profits for BBC Worldwide, at an estimated £20m each year. In 2009, one of its best years, it brought in a revenue of £147.3m, which was higher than any other show. Since then, it has consistently appeared among the most successful shows broadcast by BBC.
http://www.cityam.com/211254/why-losing-jeremy-clarkson-would-cost-bbc-dearlyBut they'll never actually admit how much they've lost just from Top Gear will they.
TTwiggy said:
Einion Yrth said:
Derek Smith said:
The usual pro BBC guff.
You watch it, you like it, you fund it; I don't watch it, I don't want it and I don't want to fund it. I might occasionally want to watch something on a competitor channel as it is broadcast though.Furthermore it is not an essential service, it's a media company and should stand or fall on its ability to sell its output.
chris watton said:
I am exactly the same!
As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
The best part was when the first few results were announced and it was evident that UKIP were right up there and threatening to hand out a whipping to Labour. Dimbleby was noticeably rattled. Didn't seem to like it at all. As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
chris watton said:
I am exactly the same!
As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
Littlejohn in the Mail wrote that Edwards had a look on his face like someone who had just been told his favourite pet had been run over. As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
I beleive I was at my parents that morning, and it was apparent that the luvvies were close to melt down. Hugely funny.
AJL308 said:
Exige77 said:
The Audience has changed, more choice now. No one would watch the old Grey Whistle test unless Jeremy Kyle grew a beard.
No one would watch a well produced live music show? Sorry but I don't accept that for a second.The Media is ratings driven. Even good old Beeb.
The Whistle test wasn't exactly "well produced" was it ?
It was what it was.
There wasn't a huge choice for avant guard music then was there ?
Cheese Mechanic said:
chris watton said:
I am exactly the same!
As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
Littlejohn in the Mail wrote that Edwards had a look on his face like someone who had just been told his favourite pet had been run over. As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
I beleive I was at my parents that morning, and it was apparent that the luvvies were close to melt down. Hugely funny.
Mrs TB was delighted to pass on info about their coverage later in the day as they invited lefty unionistas to badmouth reality. At one point Huge asked one of his female co-presenters across the studio how they felt when the exit poll was announced...the reply was that she wanted to hide under the desk, to which Huge replied 'I think we all did'. Good on these poor folks for hiding their lefty bias and resulting disappointment so well, the ultimate impartial professionals.
Eric Mc said:
Sky - large subscription, small customer base.
BBC - cheap licence, massive customer base.
To draw a Venn diagram of that set up though - the circle containing all Sky subscribers will fall within the circle containing all the BBC subscribers.BBC - cheap licence, massive customer base.
So to say cheap licence, massive customer base also includes Sky within that. Or.....to be able to subscribe to sky for live content you also have to be within the circle for BBC subscription.
Not sure what point I am trying to make actually, maybe someone else does?
turbobloke said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
chris watton said:
I am exactly the same!
As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
Littlejohn in the Mail wrote that Edwards had a look on his face like someone who had just been told his favourite pet had been run over. As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
I beleive I was at my parents that morning, and it was apparent that the luvvies were close to melt down. Hugely funny.
Mrs TB was delighted to pass on info about their coverage later in the day as they invited lefty unionistas to badmouth reality. At one point Huge asked one of his female co-presenters across the studio how they felt when the exit poll was announced...the reply was that she wanted to hide under the desk, to which Huge replied 'I think we all did'. Good on these poor folks for hiding their lefty bias and resulting disappointment so well, the ultimate impartial professionals.
AA999 said:
To draw a Venn diagram of that set up though - the circle containing all Sky subscribers will fall within the circle containing all the BBC subscribers.
So to say cheap licence, massive customer base also includes Sky within that. Or.....to be able to subscribe to sky for live content you also have to be within the circle for BBC subscription.
Not sure what point I am trying to make actually, maybe someone else does?
You obviously missed the Venn Diagram programme on BBC Schools Telly So to say cheap licence, massive customer base also includes Sky within that. Or.....to be able to subscribe to sky for live content you also have to be within the circle for BBC subscription.
Not sure what point I am trying to make actually, maybe someone else does?
TTwiggy said:
turbobloke said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
chris watton said:
I am exactly the same!
As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
Littlejohn in the Mail wrote that Edwards had a look on his face like someone who had just been told his favourite pet had been run over. As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
I beleive I was at my parents that morning, and it was apparent that the luvvies were close to melt down. Hugely funny.
Mrs TB was delighted to pass on info about their coverage later in the day as they invited lefty unionistas to badmouth reality. At one point Huge asked one of his female co-presenters across the studio how they felt when the exit poll was announced...the reply was that she wanted to hide under the desk, to which Huge replied 'I think we all did'. Good on these poor folks for hiding their lefty bias and resulting disappointment so well, the ultimate impartial professionals.
turbobloke said:
TTwiggy said:
turbobloke said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
chris watton said:
I am exactly the same!
As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
Littlejohn in the Mail wrote that Edwards had a look on his face like someone who had just been told his favourite pet had been run over. As I have mentioned before, the last time I intentionally tuned into a BBC broadcast was on the early morning (or should that be mourning to those at the Beeb)? of the GE, and seeing the look on all of their faces, Huge Edwards especially. That was pretty special!
I beleive I was at my parents that morning, and it was apparent that the luvvies were close to melt down. Hugely funny.
Mrs TB was delighted to pass on info about their coverage later in the day as they invited lefty unionistas to badmouth reality. At one point Huge asked one of his female co-presenters across the studio how they felt when the exit poll was announced...the reply was that she wanted to hide under the desk, to which Huge replied 'I think we all did'. Good on these poor folks for hiding their lefty bias and resulting disappointment so well, the ultimate impartial professionals.
Eric Mc said:
AA999 said:
To draw a Venn diagram of that set up though - the circle containing all Sky subscribers will fall within the circle containing all the BBC subscribers.
So to say cheap licence, massive customer base also includes Sky within that. Or.....to be able to subscribe to sky for live content you also have to be within the circle for BBC subscription.
Not sure what point I am trying to make actually, maybe someone else does?
You obviously missed the Venn Diagram programme on BBC Schools Telly So to say cheap licence, massive customer base also includes Sky within that. Or.....to be able to subscribe to sky for live content you also have to be within the circle for BBC subscription.
Not sure what point I am trying to make actually, maybe someone else does?
Exige77 said:
Its not about "no one would watch" its about how many.
The Media is ratings driven. Even good old Beeb.
The Whistle test wasn't exactly "well produced" was it ?
It was what it was.
There wasn't a huge choice for avant guard music then was there ?
It was well produced (although cheaply done) - it was just a show about music, actual music not TOTP inspired pre-recorded sThe Media is ratings driven. Even good old Beeb.
The Whistle test wasn't exactly "well produced" was it ?
It was what it was.
There wasn't a huge choice for avant guard music then was there ?
t, and with none of the other hype surrounding celebs or egotistical presenters.I still see no good reason as to why it wouldn't have a reasonable number of viewers. I mean, the BBC still feels the repeats of the old episodes garner enough viewers to broadcast so it's reasonable to assume that it resurrected would do no worse and probably a bit better with current acts performing rather than mostly old dead ones.
There are no other regularly broadcast live music shows that I can think of at present. Maybe Sky Arts should resurrect TOGWT or something similar?
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