English votes for English laws

[xjsdriver]

whoami said:

So, the referendum then.

It was all a con?

So you want to take issue with the referendum, but not Carmichael's conduct? I can see where your priorities lie. If Carmicael gets jailed will your tune change?

[r11co]

xjsdriver said:

If Carmicael gets jailed........

Carmicael (sic) will not be jailed as an angry mob with a bit of cash behind them do not decide what is a criminal act. As Tommy Sheridan will tell you, shouting the loudest before having your day in court does not automatically make you the winner.

[xjsdriver]

r11co said:

xjsdriver said:

If Carmicael gets jailed........

Carmicael (sic) will not be jailed as an angry mob with a bit of cash behind them do not decide what is a criminal act. As Tommy Sheridan will tell you, shouting the loudest before having your day in court does not automatically make you the winner.

I think he was jailed because of the unsafe testimony by that lying Coulson.....HTH!!!

[r11co]

xjsdriver said:

I think he was jailed because of the unsafe testimony by that lying Coulson.....HTH!!!

Garbage. Video evidence proves he perjured himself regardless of what Coulson did/didn't say.

Repeat a lie often enough though and some people will believe it to be the truth....

Edited by r11co on Sunday 5th July 08:32

[Welshbeef]

xjsdriver said:

I think he was jailed because of the unsafe testimony by that lying Coulson.....HTH!!!

In that case can Salmond be put in Jail for lying and spending tens of thousands of Tax payers money and deluding the Scottish population about his legal letter giving absolute surety over the EU entry without issue if the country voted Yes to Indy.
He didn't even have the balls to come clean when caught out instead making his number 2 do his dirty work for him.

What about the fact he refused to pay back his MP exit bonus when he went to Holyrood but he vowed never again to go to Westminster as such people then kind of agreed fair enough - sadly he is back and no he has not and will not pay that money back.... All those poor desperate people needing welfare and he instead keeps his nose in the trough.

A vile man who would have and should have been sacked in any other political party and arrested if Your view on Carmichael holds. Actually he's probably get the equivalent of life while Carmichael would get a caution.


How's it going cockroach.

[///ajd]

r11co said:

xjsdriver said:

I think he was jailed because of the unsafe testimony by that lying Coulson.....HTH!!!

Garbage. Video evidence proves he perjured himself regardless of what Coulson did/didn't say.

Seems pretty clear there is FACTUAL evidence that he dropped himself in it.

The question is, will xjs consider these FACTS and review his view that "it was coulson that did him in".

My guess is no.

[Axionknight]

whoami said:

xjsdriver said:

You mean a fair and impartial one?....that would be a start - we've never had one of those......YET!!!

Edited by xjsdriver on Friday 3rd July 23:19

It's only fair and impartial when he gets the result he wants, obviously,

Would it still have been unfair and not impartial had there been a Yes vote, I wonder?

[NicD]

ENGLISH votes, leave the Scottish nutters to their own threads.

[McTory]

NicD said:

ENGLISH votes, leave the Scottish nutters to their own threads.

Why don't want to be oppressed by you lot any more

[///ajd]

NicD said:

ENGLISH votes, leave the Scottish nutters to their own threads.

The ONLY reason there is a discussion on EVEL is due to the selfish me me me rhetoric from the SNP/Nats. Otherwise no-one would be discussing it.

We are fitting a drip tray under a cracked pipe with EVEL - in engineering terms it is always better to fix the cracked pipe (i.e. abolish Holyrood).

[Welshbeef]

///ajd said:

The ONLY reason there is a discussion on EVEL is due to the selfish me me me rhetoric from the SNP/Nats. Otherwise no-one would be discussing it.

We are fitting a drip tray under a cracked pipe with EVEL - in engineering terms it is always better to fix the cracked pipe (i.e. abolish Holyrood).

The other reason is due to the Fact SNP voted FOR uni fees increases in rUK yet voted to maintain them to be free in Scotland.....

[Troubleatmill]

I'm sure xjsdriver will be able to explain this.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10...

[Welshbeef]

Troubleatmill said:

I'm sure xjsdriver will be able to explain this.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10...

Or the Ryder Cup
Or the Chicargp trip
Or the £6k for 5 nights in London for chauffeurs
Etc etc.

And when he is questioned about it in FMQs he literally LOL and he giggles away with the front bench then answers a question about one of his policies.... Never once has he been able to deliver. It's odd how many see him as a political powerhouse / heavyweight he is a bully in primary school now back to Westminster the calibre is somewhat superior he isn't finding it that hard to appear as actually the opposite a lightweight MP

[arp1]

So Scottish MPs will have no say in 'English' matters... Why then were non Scottish MPs voting in the Scotland bill? Someone is having their cake and eating it.

[ralphrj]

arp1 said:

So Scottish MPs will have no say in 'English' matters... Why then were non Scottish MPs voting in the Scotland bill? Someone is having their cake and eating it.

The Scotland Bill that devolves more power away from Westminster to the Scottish Parliament? Are you really complaining that English, Welsh and Northern Irish MPs voted to give more power to a Parliament chosen exclusively by the people of Scotland?

[arp1]

For starters, it's a watered down 'vow', 'promise', whatever, and secondly I am not complaining about that, but how can you have English and Welsh only voting for their own things yet the Scots MPs cannot have parity in the House of Commons? If you want your own things then get your own assembly. It's the UK Parliament remember. One rule for all, not just some.

[ellroy]

ralphrj said:

Are you really complaining....

He's a Nat, of course he's complaining.

[McTory]

arp1 said:

For starters, it's a watered down 'vow', 'promise', whatever, and secondly I am not complaining about that, but how can you have English and Welsh only voting for their own things yet the Scots MPs cannot have parity in the House of Commons? If you want your own things then get your own assembly. It's the UK Parliament remember. One rule for all, not just some.

it is just being oppressed again

It plays into our hands as it shows how much those soft southerners are robbing us blind

We can get independence and keep everything we have

As we really don't want to be sharing our wealth with those poorer then ourselves

[HarryW]

Not sure if I understand the Nats gripe on this, or am I missing something fundamentally unfair in the English having an equal say to that devolved to the Scottish chamber without the need to elect yet another layer of politicians.





Perhaps if I had a brain that still thinks like a Teenager. One that doesn't understand that life is not as simple as your own little sphere and the world doesn't revolve around your own wants and desires, for every action there is a reaction. Then, perhaps, I might just about get it, no?

[IroningMan]

arp1 said:

So Scottish MPs will have no say in 'English' matters... Why then were non Scottish MPs voting in the Scotland bill? Someone is having their cake and eating it.

Why the inverted commas? Are you trying to imply that there's no such thing? Or are you just trying to cause offence?