Cancer sufferer get house repo'd

[Hackney]

fblm said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

And along comes Hackney on cue to prove it!

You know I wasn't commenting on the legalities of the eviction or the morals of the guy who is trying to keep his house don't you?

I refer only to the post and comment I quoted.

Using cancer as an excuse to break the law is abhorrent but so is the comment I took issue with.

I accept you apology

[Hackney]

Snozzwangler said:

Yup.

Interesting how people get all cry happy about cancer, but none of the other equally serious illnesses, to the same degree.

My dad didn't die of any other diseases, if he does though, I'll be sure to get "all cry happy" about that too.

[Snozzwangler]

Hackney said:

Snozzwangler said:

Yup.

Interesting how people get all cry happy about cancer, but none of the other equally serious illnesses, to the same degree.

My dad didn't die of any other diseases, if he does though, I'll be sure to get "all cry happy" about that too.

No need for your outburst though was there.

[Hackney]

Yes. There was.
Hopefully it causes TheEnd to rethink his view that you get over cancer and back to work on Monday.

Yes, people do recover but it's not as easy as getting over a cold.

[Snozzwangler]

Hackney said:

Yes. There was.
Hopefully it causes TheEnd to rethink his view that you get over cancer and back to work on Monday.

Yes, people do recover but it's not as easy as getting over a cold.

It'll have made quite a few think you need emotional help/maturity.

It ain't as easy as getting over a cold (stupid comparable), but shouldn't be placed on a pedestal as some type of 'special' illness.

[Hackney]

Snozzwangler said:

It'll have made quite a few think you need emotional help/maturity.

It ain't as easy as getting over a cold (stupid comparable), but shouldn't be placed on a pedestal as some type of 'special' illness.

Not sure what "stupid comparable" means, but this:

TheEnd said:

"Prostate cancer survivor Mr Crawford"

OK, he had it, now sorted as far as anyone can tell, so that can go back in the box.

Is a ridiculous statement.

I'm not placing it on a pedastal compared to other special illnesses - and putting "special" in apostrophe's doesn't make it sound patronising at all btw - but one can only go on one's own experience.
There's lots of horrible diseases and conditions out there but fortunately I've no close experience of those.

This isn't a competition, when anyone talks of any disease they're not favouring it over others or giving it some special treatment. I don't think alzheimers isn't awful because I'm a big fan of cancer.
And vice versa.

[Snozzwangler]

Where did End compare it to the cold?

[carinaman]

La Liga said:

Oh god, not Ukcolumn.org

One of the chaps says, "perhaps I am putting 2 + 2 together and getting 6". Yes, that is your speciality.

When people falsify their earnings to get mortgages, when people can remortgage the same property multiple times and with a nod to the chap stealing mail thread in SP&L people have committed ID fraud to transfer property ownership to themselves and remortgage property that they don't own why would we think it's not possible that people on the other side could use dodgy documentation?

How many people within their job have used dodgy documentation to commit fraud and theft? So why wouldn't we think others wouldn't?

'Hackers'? All of our data will be pinched and used to commit crimes against us. The weakest link in computer security is people. It's people within organisations.

Judge Constance Briscoe, the mate of the Huhne's with her dodgy handwriting expert, the same dodgy handwriting expert she used to falsify medical records to sue her own mother in court?


La Liga given some of the crimes committed by police officers within police stations involve dodgy documentation why wouldn't you think that flaky or illegitimate documentation could be used to take ownership of property?

La Liga said:

Oh god, not Ukcolumn.org

One of the chaps says, "perhaps I am putting 2 + 2 together and getting 6". Yes, that is your speciality.

They backed Ben Fellows.

The jury that acquitted Ben Fellow were biased against Ken Clarke MP and the Tories?

La Liga said:

Oh god, not Ukcolumn.org

They contacted Notts. Police about the repossession and got some answers from Notts. Police

That's a bit more than the frequently used Police and Home Office line of 'Can't find the files' isn't it?

[Roo]

My mother in law died of cancer. My sister in law is currently being treated for breast cancer.

Can I be offended as well or should I just accept it and get on with life?

[ZOLLAR]

Roo said:

My mother in law died of cancer. My sister in law is currently being treated for breast cancer.

Can I be offended as well or should I just accept it and get on with life?

Indeed, my mother is currently going through Chemo for breast cancer and she's also read this news story and finds it equally offensive that someone would use the condition to absolve a situation that could have been dealt with over a decade ago!

[carinaman]

Playing on having cancer would seem against the other UK Column bit about stuff in the media reporting that victims of child sexual offences can have deductions made from their compensation if they themselves have committed crimes. I think that's the same for rape victims. The compensation that they may have could have deductions made if they've committed crimes.

Part of my problem with reducing compensation to childhood victims of sex crimes, is there was a case in Devon where a lad was deliberately trying to get caught shoplifting as he wanted to be in custody as that was preferable to being the sexual plaything of a group of men again.

I'm not sure that playing on having cancer, if Mr Crawford has done that, differs from the way that the police and other public sector organisations spin incidences to get across other messages.

I'm not sure how much compensation culture has commoditised and monetised every little mishap that we may encounter in life to make it worth something, newsworthy or being something useful as a self promotional tool in the age of the 'selfie'?

As an example of how everything can be used to promote an agenda or message I'll cite the Lee Vickers stab fest (reference to newspaper website typo repeated by reddit) against those two police officers that did a very good job dealing with him in Corby and the Andrew Mitchell plebgate smear campaign. So just as any little incident can be used for self promotion, it can be used to put down others.

'Speed Kills' etc.

[Riley Blue]

I had months of radio therapy for prostate cancer at the end of last year and was told I was 'in the clear', as far as that is possible, in May. To whom should I apply to have my debts cancelled??

That chap needs a 'reality slap' - or several.

[Corpulent Tosser]

Hackney said:

Yes. There was.
Hopefully it causes TheEnd to rethink his view that you get over cancer and back to work on Monday.

Yes, people do recover but it's not as easy as getting over a cold.

No, there was no need for it, many of us have been affected by cancer and it is a terrible thing for the sufferer and their family, but the fact remains the guy's cancer has no relevance to the eviction.
You clearly didn't like TheEnds post but there was no need for the mini tirade.

[anonymous-user]

carinaman said:

So why aren't procedures equally being followed when it comes to repossessing property?

What procedures are you referring to?

carinaman said:

So I think there may be some validity in querying the legality of documentation used.

Absolutely. It's really likely someone involved in the process (the Judge? The bailiffs working on behalf of the court?) created a fake document, copied it and showed it to the police. This conspiracy was backed-up with the Judge's judgement which was placed on public record, which must also be a lie.

carinaman said:

I found the UK Column coverage of the Sheku Bayoh death and Police Scotland interesting. The police being allowed to have a meeting with a police federation rep. and not being able to be forced by PIRC to answer questions about the incident that led to the death Sheku Bayoh is bit like the group of lads that killed Stephen Lawrence to convene to get their stories and alibis in place.

Yes, a person's fundamental right to not answer questions in a criminal investigation is very much like a group of people murdering someone. A perfect comparison from the thinking of a clear mind.

Riley Blue said:

I had months of radio therapy for prostate cancer at the end of last year and was told I was 'in the clear', as far as that is possible, in May. To whom should I apply to have my debts cancelled??

That chap needs a 'reality slap' - or several.

Glad to hear that outcome for you, and exactly. It's simply not relevant and plays to the emotive side that is probably at the heart of the stupid people who decided to protest the eviction.

[TheEnd]

Hackney said:

Yes. There was.
Hopefully it causes TheEnd to rethink his view that you get over cancer and back to work on Monday.

Yes, people do recover but it's not as easy as getting over a cold.

It doesn't change my view.
It just so happens that about 4 months ago, my dad was diagnosed with cancer and died 6 weeks later, so I know all about cancer and what it does.

But, and here's the point you can't get your tiny mind around is that having cancer doesn't mean the world has to wrap you in cotton wool, you get a lifetime "victim" card, and don't need to pay your bills.

As a kid, my dad had polio and at one stage was wheeled into a mortuary until they discovered the mistake.
That's even closer to death, and you know what? He still had to go on and pay his mortgage afterwards, get a job etc.

ZOLLAR said:

Roo said:

My mother in law died of cancer. My sister in law is currently being treated for breast cancer.

Can I be offended as well or should I just accept it and get on with life?

Indeed, my mother is currently going through Chemo for breast cancer and she's also read this news story and finds it equally offensive that someone would use the condition to absolve a situation that could have been dealt with over a decade ago!

Hackney said:

There's lots of horrible diseases and conditions out there but fortunately I've no close experience of those.

Maybe I'll mention my aunt that died of breast cancer about 6 years ago, and another aunt who is very ill with liver cancer right now and I'm expecting to get the phone call over the next few weeks.

There are a lot of people out there with experience of cancer and for those that have lost someone, seeing this guy using it as a bargaining tool for not paying his bills, and facebook rentamob meatheads like you, it comes over as utterly abhorrent, so how about you change your views, eh?

[Snozzwangler]

Nicely put.

It seems he's realised how much of a tool he has been

[Foppo]

Regarding the endowment policy may people got conned mislead with that type of policy.

We did with Clerical and Medical took out a endowment to pay of our mortgage.

I could see things going wrong and tried to increase payments.Got told don't worry it will be fine.It wasn't seven thousand pound short to pay off the mortgage.

[Hackney]

doogz said:

Hackney said:

My dad didn't die of any other diseases, if he does though, I'll be sure to get "all cry happy" about that too.

My Dad didn't die of cancer when I was 18. It was something much more sudden. We never got a chance to say goodbye.

Can I stop paying my mortgage now?

Or can we keep the emotions and outrage where they belong, i.e. out of this situation entirely?

I totally separated what the end said about cancer and the rights and wrongs of what the fella is doing.
You do what you like with your mortgage.
(belated) condolances re your father.

[carinaman]

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2015-11-18/tom-cra...

Found not guilty of assaulting police officer. Was there was also some issue with the warrant(s) used?