Charity Kids Co. director asked to step down.
Discussion
I've read the story. The Charity Commission is quoted in that article as going in to 'assess its funding position and the impact issues reported in the media may have on the future of the charity,'
You're pulling out the bits that hint at a scandal of some form. There may indeed be one, but that isn't why the Charity Commission are now wanting to meet with them.
The only ones concerned so far seem to be the Cabinet Office. And from what has been published to date, for practice and reporting that is not unusal in this sector
- cash incentives to beneficiaries
- double counting
- measuring reach through both primary and secondary beneficiaries
- supporting service users to become volunteers/paid members of staff
- bad staff management
- poor cashflow management
I suspect from reading this, the Charity Commission's concerns are whether the charity can continue and if not how to minimise risk etc and nothing to do with what has gone on before (if anything at all).
You're pulling out the bits that hint at a scandal of some form. There may indeed be one, but that isn't why the Charity Commission are now wanting to meet with them.
The only ones concerned so far seem to be the Cabinet Office. And from what has been published to date, for practice and reporting that is not unusal in this sector
- cash incentives to beneficiaries
- double counting
- measuring reach through both primary and secondary beneficiaries
- supporting service users to become volunteers/paid members of staff
- bad staff management
- poor cashflow management
I suspect from reading this, the Charity Commission's concerns are whether the charity can continue and if not how to minimise risk etc and nothing to do with what has gone on before (if anything at all).
Edited by RedTrident on Monday 6th July 10:46
RedTrident said:
I've read the story. The Charity Commission is quoted in that article as going in to 'assess its funding position and the impact issues reported in the media may have on the future of the charity,'
You're pulling out the bits that hint at a scandal of some form. There may indeed be one, but that isn't why the Charity Commission are now wanting to meet with them.
The issues reported in the media refer to how the money is being spent. Which is what the article states. Which is what I said. There is no other conclusion to draw. You're pulling out the bits that hint at a scandal of some form. There may indeed be one, but that isn't why the Charity Commission are now wanting to meet with them.
However I've just realised who I'm talking to and given your weapons grade form elsewhere I won't be carrying on as I'm not interested in debating with you.
hornetrider said:
The issues reported in the media refer to how the money is being spent. Which is what the article states. Which is what I said. There is no other conclusion to draw.
Did you mean to state that there are no conclusions to be drawn because the article gives no evidence of reason? It is all innuendo. All Political. All supposition. There might be any number of reasons why the commission is involved. There is no reason to think that it is because of malpractice. The commission has a number of functions. I guess they are there for one of those.
El Guapo said:
The government should not be handing taxpayers' money to charities anyway.
Precisely. Unfortunately Blair meddled in the Charity regulations, and allowed them to take part in political campaigning. Plus of course the creation of "fake charities" , who were nothing more than political lobby groups disguised as charities. In this case though, we seem to have a well meaning charitable cause with its similarly driven leader way out of her depth.
Unfortunately, decent and honest charities have been tainted from the distrust fallout that Blair's practises have allowed/implemented.
I must say, the vast majority of the "big" charities will never see a penny of mine, their largesse is all too plain in many cases, after a little digging .
My own preferences Are: RNLI , PDSA , and one of a number of small ex-forces charities. (Particularly St Dunstans)
Other than that , the good old Sally Army. £200 every XMas, because they get out and do, what others proclaim to do, but only do on the back of huge salaries.
After all those altercation between 3rd and 6th July on this thread, it has gone very surprisingly quiet this evening after Laurel Green's post.
Charities?
The mainstream ones (and a lot of the others) would have to hold me to the ground to extract an old halfpenny from my pocket.
Cheese Mechanic 6 July had it just about spot on for me.
Charities?
The mainstream ones (and a lot of the others) would have to hold me to the ground to extract an old halfpenny from my pocket.
Cheese Mechanic 6 July had it just about spot on for me.
Laurel Green said:
Has just been announced that the Met are looking into allegations of sexual assault at Kids company.
ETA: Clicky
Hugely sad and worrying. As said before, CB is in my opinion (actually having met the woman and having had a partner who (still) works for her) an inspiration when it comes to the care of vulnerable children, and for her organisation which she has put her entire life's work in to to be subject to this, must be destroying her inside. In my experience, KC is a very worthwhile charity and is just about the last organisation I would have expected this to happen to. ETA: Clicky
Edited by Laurel Green on Thursday 30th July 22:34
Looks like the charity Chairman, Alan Yentob, is being accused of a conflict of interest over the Beeb's reporting of the matter. The articles alledges he was trying to influence Newsnight recently, as well as using his BBC email account to persuade the govt to let them off 600k of tax.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184493/Al...
It also seems from this article that Camila Batmanghelidjh is leaving the charity at the end of October.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184493/Al...
It also seems from this article that Camila Batmanghelidjh is leaving the charity at the end of October.
hornetrider said:
Looks like the charity Chairman, Alan Yentob, is being accused of a conflict of interest over the Beeb's reporting of the matter. The articles alledges he was trying to influence Newsnight recently, as well as using his BBC email account to persuade the govt to let them off 600k of tax.
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Does anyone think that is perhaps as serious as punching a producer?.
Edited by 55palfers on Tuesday 4th August 11:26
Oh dear. Hearing on the Beeb today that despite an injection of three million in govt funds last week that it'll be closing down it's services tonight. Ministers frantically trying to get the cash back, however it's not been spent on what it was awarded for.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33641889
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33641889
OpulentBob said:
Hugely sad and worrying. As said before, CB is in my opinion (actually having met the woman and having had a partner who (still) works for her) an inspiration when it comes to the care of vulnerable children, and for her organisation which she has put her entire life's work in to to be subject to this, must be destroying her inside. In my experience, KC is a very worthwhile charity and is just about the last organisation I would have expected this to happen to.
Its quite possible to be charismatic and totally incompetent at heading a large organisation. This recent thing with funds being used for payroll is astounding.Allegations of kiddie fiddling being investigated now....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3185576/Cr...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3185576/Cr...
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