The SNP - the party of the confused....

The SNP - the party of the confused....

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r11co

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6,244 posts

230 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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2015 - SNP only party to reject Syrian air strikes.

2013 - SNP only party to back military action against Syria.

What a fking joke! The party of the contrary, the party with no principles!

Will someone please just take them away somewhere....!

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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Revolutionary terrorists have to stick together.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

243 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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Only confirms they are in the thick of the political game now. Seems like Labour will do the same U turn on bombing.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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SNP is a one trick pony.

Whatever Westminster wants - vote differently.

They can't be seen to be part of the Westminster machine.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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To be fair, they were talking about bombing Assad in 2013, now we're talking about bombing one of the other combatants.

gowmonster

2,471 posts

167 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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2013, syria was suspected of using chemical weapons against it's own people, the SNP supported action if the use of chemical weapons had been proved by weapons inspectors.
2015, terrorists targeting the UK, i suspect would be targeted in any country, usually with the countries help.

two entirely different scenarios.

what are the risks of syria seeing it as an act of war?

how is it much different to drone strikes in Pakistan against Taliban?

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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gowmonster said:
2013, syria was suspected of using chemical weapons against it's own people, the SNP supported action if the use of chemical weapons had been proved by weapons inspectors.
2015, terrorists targeting the UK, i suspect would be targeted in any country, usually with the countries help.

two entirely different scenarios.

what are the risks of syria seeing it as an act of war?
No chance at all. Reading around the issue (and between the lines) the current coalition, while not allied to Assad, is telling them when they're going to be in-theatre. Nobody has been shot at by Syrian government forces yet.

Longer term, the west seems to be de-facto aligning itself with Shia Islam. Iran is thawing, and nuclear ambitions aside they really are better people to do business with than Saudi Arabia. Whether that's the right decision or not remains to be seen since Shia is a minority, but their rulers do seem to be a bit less shooty.

If Iran come onside, we'll be able to come to an arrangement with Assad where he'll align with the rebels against Daesh, allow free elections after the war, and be given asylum in Iran to go back to dentistry. Yes, he's done some terrible war crimes, but it's never stopped us doing business with murderers before:



xjsdriver

1,071 posts

121 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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davepoth said:
No chance at all. Reading around the issue (and between the lines) the current coalition, while not allied to Assad, is telling them when they're going to be in-theatre. Nobody has been shot at by Syrian government forces yet.

Longer term, the west seems to be de-facto aligning itself with Shia Islam. Iran is thawing, and nuclear ambitions aside they really are better people to do business with than Saudi Arabia. Whether that's the right decision or not remains to be seen since Shia is a minority, but their rulers do seem to be a bit less shooty.

If Iran come onside, we'll be able to come to an arrangement with Assad where he'll align with the rebels against Daesh, allow free elections after the war, and be given asylum in Iran to go back to dentistry. Yes, he's done some terrible war crimes, but it's never stopped us doing business with murderers before:

Th UK Government of all political persuasions have done dirty deals with dodgy despots since time immemorial

r11co

Original Poster:

6,244 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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xjsdriver said:
The UK Government of all political persuasions have done dirty deals with dodgy despots since time immemorial
Scottish Government too.....


McTory

70 posts

107 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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r11co said:
Scottish Government too.....

Ah but NATs are so dumb they can't see that

The Tartan tories can say anything and the religious fervor of the nats means they will believe it to the letter no matter what evidence is presented to them

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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r11co said:
xjsdriver said:
The UK Government of all political persuasions have done dirty deals with dodgy despots since time immemorial
Scottish Government too.....

Didn't he say he was bezzie mates with Putin too?

It would be interesting to see the MI5/CIA files on the current SNP. You can be sure they are considered a very large security risk - through sheer incompetence / contrary behaviour as much as any "Arthur Donaldson" type malice. :E

VeeDubBigBird

440 posts

129 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Dont worry though their much more serious about the real needs of the Scottish people now....


http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/nicola-sturgeon-b...

"I am not a lover of the macaroni pie, However, my father is - and I got a stern talking to on the telephone last night from my father who told me that he expected me to join the campaign to save the macaroni pie."


And yes she did raise this in Holyrood.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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VeeDubBigBird said:
Dont worry though their much more serious about the real needs of the Scottish people now....


http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/nicola-sturgeon-b...

"I am not a lover of the macaroni pie, However, my father is - and I got a stern talking to on the telephone last night from my father who told me that he expected me to join the campaign to save the macaroni pie."


And yes she did raise this in Holyrood.
They are bloody tasty though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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r11co said:
xjsdriver said:
The UK Government of all political persuasions have done dirty deals with dodgy despots since time immemorial
Scottish Government too Rupert Murdoch too.....

Fixed that for you.

hidetheelephants

24,216 posts

193 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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VeeDubBigBird said:
Dont worry though their much more serious about the real needs of the Scottish people now....


http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/nicola-sturgeon-b...

"I am not a lover of the macaroni pie, However, my father is - and I got a stern talking to on the telephone last night from my father who told me that he expected me to join the campaign to save the macaroni pie."


And yes she did raise this in Holyrood.
She was replying to a question from Kez Dugdale, who was stupid enough to ask about it.

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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I thought it was an euphemism for Wee Jimmy Krankie's sexual preferences.

Cobnapint

8,625 posts

151 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Oh gawd, Sturgeons on centre court watching the tennis. F*ck off back to Scotland you English hating bh.

matchmaker

8,484 posts

200 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Cobnapint said:
Oh gawd, Sturgeons on centre court watching the tennis. F*ck off back to Scotland you English hating bh.
Why should she not be watching the tennis?

Cobnapint

8,625 posts

151 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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matchmaker said:
Why should she not be watching the tennis?
She can - at home.

r11co

Original Poster:

6,244 posts

230 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Cobnapint said:
matchmaker said:
Why should she not be watching the tennis?
She can - at home.
She can watch it from where she likes, as long as she pays for the tickets herself and leaves the flags at home.