Good work Police Scotland
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
Police fail too investigate crash at weekend...when reported again today one person found dead another seriously injured.
Police fail too investigate crash at weekend...when reported again today one person found dead another seriously injured.
Edited by joeg on Wednesday 8th July 22:06
Police in Scotland get on my bloody nerves.Just a small example,i'm one person in the Uk,police station is 1 and a half miles from my house,i stay in a small town and they couldn't be arsed driving out when i reported about 15 times about a habitual drink driver going out every night delivering drugs whatever state he was in(once even crawling to his car to drive it!)
So even when he was a potential killer,drug dealer to boot and kept a modified crossbow and guns in his house they never came down once!!.
After that i decided never to call the police about anything,complete and bloody utter waste of time.In fact,it wasnt police scotland at the time,i'll give them a mention though,police station on sea road methil,Fife in Scotland,a
holes!!
Oh,i suppose i'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt,there was once he was so pissed he fell out the car,left lights on and the car running!!and staggered into the house leaving the car at a 45 degree angle to the kerb,but you have to understand how difficult it was for the police to catch him though,THEY HAD TO SEE HIM DRIVING IT!!!!wtf?
So even when he was a potential killer,drug dealer to boot and kept a modified crossbow and guns in his house they never came down once!!.
After that i decided never to call the police about anything,complete and bloody utter waste of time.In fact,it wasnt police scotland at the time,i'll give them a mention though,police station on sea road methil,Fife in Scotland,a
holes!!Oh,i suppose i'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt,there was once he was so pissed he fell out the car,left lights on and the car running!!and staggered into the house leaving the car at a 45 degree angle to the kerb,but you have to understand how difficult it was for the police to catch him though,THEY HAD TO SEE HIM DRIVING IT!!!!wtf?
they where probably too busy making Tv adverts http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-33442233
As per my reply in SP&L.
You need to compartmentalise the incident and go through it.
For a start the BBC have written something which hasn't been said by the police. They've written:
In nearly all circumstances when the police are called, an incident is generated and categorised according to the NSIR on an electronic dispatch system. I'm not sure this is the latest document (and if Scotland use the exact same one), but it gives you a flavour of the nature of what they work from: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
It's perfectly possible it's a balls-up from the call handler (or someone else) in terms of recording, categorising and grading the incident. If so, it's rare given the above strict criteria they're trained in, but either way, let's wait until we have more than a few words about it first before we make any conclusions.
You need to compartmentalise the incident and go through it.
For a start the BBC have written something which hasn't been said by the police. They've written:
BBC said:
A dead man and a seriously injured woman were found in a crashed car three days after the accident was reported to police, it has emerged.
Whereas the police statement says: police statement said:
As part of our investigation into this incident, it has come to light that a call was made to police late on Sunday morning regarding a car which was reported as being off the road.
The police received a call on Sunday morning about a car off the road. What does that tell us? Not much really. How was it described? How was it reported? How was it recorded? How did the reporting person describe it? Was it reported / interpreted / recorded as a broken down vehicle or anything else that wouldn't generate a police response? Lots of unknowns that could mean it was legitimate not to dispatch resource in the circumstances. In nearly all circumstances when the police are called, an incident is generated and categorised according to the NSIR on an electronic dispatch system. I'm not sure this is the latest document (and if Scotland use the exact same one), but it gives you a flavour of the nature of what they work from: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
It's perfectly possible it's a balls-up from the call handler (or someone else) in terms of recording, categorising and grading the incident. If so, it's rare given the above strict criteria they're trained in, but either way, let's wait until we have more than a few words about it first before we make any conclusions.
I don't know how you can even justify that, the police where looking for the couple and knew what car they had...if it was reported as a blue car off the road and they didn't investigate then that is surely pretty incompetent with regards to missing car/couple surely. If it's reported as a crash surely they look back and see its not previously been reported and thus have to at least look and see if any damage to any other persons property?!
joeg said:
I don't know how you can even justify that, the police where looking for the couple and knew what car they had...if it was reported as a blue car off the road and they didn't investigate then that is surely pretty incompetent with regards to missing car/couple surely. If it's reported as a crash surely they look back and see its not previously been reported and thus have to at least look and see if any damage to any other persons property?!
I'm not justifying anything other than there's too little information to conclude whether or not they've made an error. I was explaining how the circumstances MAY have amounted to a resource legitimately not being dispatched. I even wrote, "It's perfectly possible it's a balls-up", at the end to cover scenarios where one should have been, including your "if" scenario speculation.
ikarl said:
Just seen this on the news...will be horrible to hear the news coming out from this. Almost hoping that the injured man died quickly and was in agony for days etc
Happens a lot in rural US/Canada. Car swerves to avoid deer/moose/Big Foot, disappears into ditch or forest. No phone signal. Fooked.joeg said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
Police fail too investigate crash at weekend...when reported again today one person found dead another seriously injured.
Link doesn't work - good work. Do you work for police scotland?Police fail too investigate crash at weekend...when reported again today one person found dead another seriously injured.
Edited by joeg on Wednesday 8th July 22:06
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